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Requested move 17 January 2019

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. This close cannot mandate splitting the article, but please feel free to proceed with any edits you deem necessary under normal editing procedure. Dekimasuよ! 04:06, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Radisson Hotel GroupRezidor Hotel Group – move back to previous article title and prepare to split the article. "Radisson Hospitality AB " formerly Rezidor Hotel Group , was only one of the company of the new group Radisson Hotel Group, the other one was Radisson Hospitality Inc, formerly Carlson Hotels. It should have 3 articles for Carlson Hotels until the rename and merge, for Rezidor Hotel Group until the rename and merge, and the new entity Radisson Hotel Group  Matthew hk (talk) 05:09, 17 January 2019 (UTC) --Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:45, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Instead of RM, the page may need page history split, into Radisson Hotel Group (where redirect Carlson Rezidor Hotel Group go there) and Rezidor Hotel Group (where redirects Rezidor SAS Hospitality, SAS International Hotels go there). The article at first (Special:Permalink/66166110) was about the company called Rezidor SAS, which did not have any relation with Carlson Hotels, excepting a franchise agreement (or a "lease" agreement) since 1994 and Carlson owned the shares of Rezidor SAS in 2005, starting at 25% level. The article then suffered from ongoing COI and copyvio edits that the main text was purged and altered again and again, but still about Rezidor Hotel Group, the new name of Rezidor SAS Hospitality, until circa 2013. The article should about this brand/corporate identity "Rezidor" (and predecessor SAS International Hotels) until this corporate identity and brand became defunct in 2018.
The "unrelated content" that about Carlson Hotels, former wholly owned subsidiary of Carlson Companies, started to fill by Carlson Rezidor Communications (talk · contribs) and other paid editors circa 2013 (since i can't check rev deleted history), while the copyvio content that similar to the official fact sheet of Rezidor Hotel Group, seem disappeared after Special:Permalink/581025008 (rev hidden). Since then the article was hijacked and start to about the enlarged hotel group, which i analogue as A + B = C. And also due to the evolution of the article content it seem hard to find a point to page history cut, or may be not really matter if the article was under heavy rev deletion. It also not really matter if the content was under related, but not exactly the right article title. Some content was copied to Carlson Companies with this edit Special:Diff/878868354, and tagged in the talk pages, may be it should also consider the page history split and the attribution.
For the analogue A + B = C, or Bank of New York (now merged and was a redirect) + Mellon Financial = The Bank of New York Mellon, seem it should better need 2 or 3 articles for the content. Also, i really don't like the idea of Matryona, which Radisson Hotel Group is a hotel company that owned multi-chain, and then have Radisson Hotels as GNG fails article for the single brand only, and then have Radisson Blu (formerly a co-brand Radisson SAS) Radisson Red for the sub-brands, which seem far away from passing GNG. But keep aside to later.
Carlson Hotels is A, which is an American company and the owner, licensor of Radisson brand. The content should went to Carlson Companies, as per International Directory of Companies History, treating it as a whole in one chapter (and the book have another entry for Carlson Restaurants Worldwide, however, it is a redirect in wiki)
B, certainly Rezidor Hotel Group, licensee of Radisson brand.
C, is Radisson Hotel Group. Since Radisson Hotel Group is a "merger" that eliminate both corporate identities Carlson and Rezidor , and named after the biggest brand Radisson of the multi-chain company, it should have a brief summary of the predecessors, but not writing and c&p the same content 3 times (or counting the chain articles, 5 or 7 times). And i will made a draft in Draft:Radisson Hotel Group to show the final product.
-- Matthew hk (talk) 22:59, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:40, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.