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Regarding the Cory Asbury edit

Someone undid user 172.77.18.139's edit on the Redding, California article that added musician Cory Asbury to the notable persons list. He did live in Redding and worked at the base of Bethel music located there. He did, however, move to Michigan after a few years. It's the same as the deceased Roy Rogers--his Wiki article doesn't even mention Redding! So why is he on there? I don't know.

172.77.161.155 (talk) 19:40, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

I removed his entry and there's three reasons why it shouldn't be included. First, the Roy Rogers article you cited doesn't mention Redding is because you have the wrong Roy Rogers. Its actually Roy Rogers (guitarist). Which clearly states, along with an SF Gate article it cites, that he was born in Redding. That's why is included. I'll assume in good faith that you didn't intentionally cite the wrong person.

Second, Cory Asbury's article doesn't state that he lived in Redding or worked at Bethel Music as your asserting. What it days say is that at sometime in 2016 he "toured with Bethel Music and has also led worship at the Heaven Come Conference" and that "During his tenure there, he led worship during certain services organized at Bethel Church." No where else in his article does it mention Redding. Let alone him living or working there. Also notice that it goes out of its way to say he only led worship during "certain services." It doesn't specify exactly how many, but it was clearly a small amount. Plus, its not even sourced. Even if it was, it would be ridiculous to include everyone who led a few services at Bethel or toured with their musical group as a notable person of Redding. As it would be list everyone who is was signed up to their record label at some point "just because."

Third, the list is mainly suppose to be "prominent people" of Redding. Cory Asbury isn't automatically a prominent person of a Redding just because he went to a church there or released a few records with Bethel Music. People like Bill Johnson, Rick Bosetti, and Megan Rapinoe are considered "prominent people" because most people in the area know who they are and people not in the area largely know about their connection to it. Whereas, the vast majority of people both living in Redding probably haven't heard of Cory Asbury and people not from there more then likely don't know or care that he led a few worship services at Bethel. Again, its only mentioned once in his article and its not sourced. So it's not even important to notability in Wikipedia.

One more thing worth mentioning is that Bill Johnson is also notable to Redding because Redding is where and why he became notable. He's not a notable person of Weaverville, CA in Wikipedia. Even though he had a church there before becoming the pastor of Bethel, because it wasn't where he became notable. The place didn't have a huge influence on him becoming a prominent pastor at Bethel. With Cory Asbury there's no indication he was influenced at all by Redding in any way what so ever. Let alone by Bethel Church. He was already a musician before he led a few worship services at Bethel and had a few records out by then.Plus, the relationship to the church was extremely short. If he even did anything there in the first place. Again, its not even sourced so there's no way of knowing, but even if it was sourced and true that he led "certain services" there its just to few to matter. Especially with the other reasons he isn't notable or prominent. --Adamant1 (talk) 03:58, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

I see, thanks for the info. I did not realize I cited the wrong 'Roy Rogers'. By the way my IP changed but I am the same person as 172.77.161.155 (talk)

50.120.11.40 (talk) 19:20, 28 January 2020 (UTC)