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A fact from Racecraft appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 10 July 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the book Racecraft argues that the concept of human races was developed to justify racism?

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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 11:14, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the book Racecraft argues that the concept of human races were developed to justify racism? Source: "Racism is not discrimination based on race. Rather, race is an ideology created to justify racism. Racism came first and race followed." (p. 125) The quote continues: "As Barbara Fields has long explained, the first peoples enslaved in West Africa and forced to labor in what would become the United States were not yet considered a 'race.' The ideology of race was developed later, as 'Euro-Americans resolved the contradiction between slavery and liberty by defining Afro-Americans as a race.'"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kore Ilbo

Created by Freedom4U (talk). Self-nominated at 02:07, 21 June 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Racecraft; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

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Neutral: - I have just one concern. The end of the fourth paragraph in the summary section says In defining race as an ideology created to justify racism, the book inverts the typical causal ordering that defines racism as discrimination or prejudice based on race. This is referenced by the Torres review. Although I'm inclined to agree with the point made, it does seem to be an evaluative judgement presented in Wikipedia's voice. It's not a major issue but I think introducing this comment as Torres's judgement would be better.
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Just fix the minor neutrality issue and we're good to go. Also, the word "developed" in the hook might be replaced with "created" or "invented", which I think is a slightly better match with the source - but not essential. WJ94 (talk) 13:52, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@WJ94: Although I specifically reference the Torres review there, other sources also agree with this and I don't see anything disagreeing with it. I don't believe the statement is a judgement of the claim's accuracy, simply an observation that the claim is different from the norm. As for "developed", I'm using the same language that's in the quote that I provided. :3 F4U (they/it) 19:15, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Freedom4U: Thanks for your reply - that seems fair enough regarding the Torres comment. I'll leave the precise wording of the hook up to the promoting admin; either would be acceptable in my view. Happy to approve this. WJ94 (talk) 09:00, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]