Talk:Ptasie mleczko

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On 15 July 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Bird's milk. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

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ptasie mleczko This candy is wonderful—Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.104.160.56 (talk) 16:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unobtainium

Galassi, I see the point that the sentence in question is attempting to make, but it's pretty clearly original research to compare a fictional concept to a perceived meaning of a translation of a foreign word. Can you clarify as to how it's not original research? Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 01:20, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gelatine

The article states twice, that some variants of ptasie mleczko substitutes gelatine with agar-agar. However, the main polish version from Wedel also uses agar. I don't know since when. I don't think that I've ever seen ptasie mleczko with gelatine in Poland. PuchaczTrado (talk) 08:53, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Removing mentioning of "crop milk"

As the sentence that follows the mentioning "crop milk" clarifies, this phenomenon (of crop milk) has nothing to do with the name of the candy. The name refers to an "impossible delicacy", something of a joke. It would make sense to put a disambiguation "did you mean crop milk" at the top, but not within this article. --HermannusAlemannus (talk) 08:01, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Madártej (bird's milk in Hungarian)

In Hungarian there is a dessert called madártej, it may be worth looking into its connection to ptasie mleczko since they share the same name and have similar appearance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.17.33.191 (talk) 17:26, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 July 2022

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 03:49, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ptasie mleczko → Bird's milk – The article is about a group of Eastern European sweets the names of which in various languages (ptasie mleczko, ptichye moloko, linnupiim, putnu piens, paukščių pienas, ptichye moloko, lapte de pasăre, ptashyne moloko etc.) all mean "bird's milk" rather than just the original E. Wedel-owned brand. That's also how authorative topical resources, such as The Oxford Companion to Sugar and Sweets, refers to it as. Turaids (talk) 17:23, 15 July 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 21:20, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure but the name of the sweet is actually "Ptasie mleczko" isn't it? That's the name it's sold under worldwide Marcelus (talk) 15:36, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Ptasie mleczko" is only the name of the sweets made by a single manufacturer (E. Wedel). Even in Poland, other producers use different names for it, such as "Alpejskie mleczko". Here's a box of bird's milk produced in Lithuania, in Latvia, in Estonia, in Russia etc. As you see none of them even lists the name "Ptasie mleczko" on the packaging. –Turaids (talk) 18:24, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And? This isn't Estonian, Latvian or Russian Wikipedia, but English. In English-speaking countries the sweet is called "Ptasie Mleczko". Ptasie Mleczko isn't some traditional dessert, but a sweet created and produced by the very specific company in Poland. Other sweets are copies Marcelus (talk) 18:54, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Estonian, Latvian and all the other non-Wedel bird's milk is definitely not called "Ptasie Mleczko" in English-speaking countries and the article is clearly not just about the Polish trademark regardless of who copied who. –Turaids (talk) 06:03, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's about Polish trademark, but also mentions others inspired by Polish sweet. My point is that there is a place for two articles Ptasie mleczko and Bird's milk Marcelus (talk) 06:49, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, if there's ever enough content for a separate article on "Ptasie Mleczko" or any other EU-registered bird's milk trademarks, but so far around less than one fifth of the article is about the Polish trademark (including the overlapping parts). –Turaids (talk) 18:16, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nominator. Cukrakalnis (talk) 11:10, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Not commonly translated into English and the Polish name is the best-known. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:15, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Necrothesp and per arguments submitted by Marcelus. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:56, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.