Talk:Provincial city (Taiwan)

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On 11 June 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Autonomous municipality. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved to Provincial city (Taiwan). Jenks24 (talk) 06:51, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Provincial city (Republic of China) → City (Taiwan) –

Following the move of "County (Republic of China)" to "County (Taiwan)" and "Township (Republic of China)" to "Township (Taiwan)"
In Taiwanese laws, and ROC constitution, this type of administrative division is called 市 shi. The name "provincial city 省轄市 shengxiashi" is from the out dated law. See [1], "Each county and city has a government and a council." 68.181.2.35 (talk) 20:37, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose a move to City (Taiwan). This title is ambiguous since Special municipalities and County-controlled cities are also cities. Support a move to Provincial city (Taiwan) per nom. — AjaxSmack 02:10, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
oppose highly ambiguous. City (Taiwan administrative division) would be needed. "City (Taiwan)" is much too ambiguous. -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 06:35, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Ambiguous, as there are direct administered municipalities (same status as a province) and subprovincial cities (subordinate to counties) in Taiwan. Moreover, this article should cover the existence of provincial cities of the Republic of China prior to 1949. As such, the name "Provincial city (Taiwan)" would still be inappropriate.--Jiang (talk) 19:24, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would support a move to Provincial city (Taiwan) as proposed by AjaxSmack. Readin (talk) 00:47, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support. either City (Taiwan) or Provincial city (Taiwan) Fizikanauk (talk) 19:14, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 18 July 2018

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The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 16:49, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Provincial city (Taiwan) → City (Taiwan) – Official name has changed. Szqecs (talk) 11:48, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). -- Alex^TW 12:06, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for the reasoning given in the 2012 RM above. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 13:21, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The proposed title is ambiguous since Special municipalities (e.g. Taipei, Kaohsiung) and County-administered cities (e.g. Hualien, Changhua) are also cities. In fact, only 3 of 23 cities in Taiwan are these provincial cities. — AjaxSmack 01:43, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I considered closing this, it doesn't really need my !vote. But I don't want to be accused of a supervote, and I want to point out that this nomination is completely contrary to policy. See wp:official names if you like, but really, has this request any basis at all in the article title policy? We've linked to the policy in so many places, and asked people to read it before raising move requests. But still we get proposals like this. The mind boggles. Andrewa (talk) 13:52, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 11 June 2022

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 18:46, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Provincial city (Taiwan) → Autonomous municipality – The ROC Government websites and Taiwan at a Glance guidebook refer to all cities as “autonomous municipality”. Link: [2] 142.112.236.29 (talk) 23:45, 11 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 15:27, 18 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:04, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support, as this is the main current usage. The term "city" is also used in official Taiwan government sources; but as the earlier discussions indicate, this would be too ambiguous. My only hesitation is "Autonomous municipality" is quite generic and will likely need disambiguation at some point (see Phnom Penh, Municipalities of Puerto Rico, Rebel Zapatista Autonomous Municipalities, etc.). —Caorongjin 💬 09:53, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose: That doesn't seem like a very WP:RECOGNIZABLE topic name for most readers of English. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:42, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest that is what a redirect is for. —Caorongjin 💬 09:34, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move to autonomous municipality (Taiwan). Shwcz (talk) 03:42, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per BarrelProof. (Googling the term, I'm only seeing references to Puerto Rico...) ╠╣uw [talk] 09:39, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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