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Misleading and incorrect info

This article needs further explanation to link the history properly to Aboriginal Protection Board, which refers to the wider powers of the Protectors created by various Acts of Parliament. As it stands, a number of links to this article from others may be incorrect too, as it doesn't give the complete history of the differing roles of the Protectors. I discovered this when creating an article on Aboriginal reserves - still only a stub, but all of these should link to one another for clarity. And the various states' history articles... Laterthanyouthink (talk) 09:39, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Remove reference to 'Commissioner for Aboriginal Children and Young People'

Hi folks, I think the reference to the position given in this topic's title should be removed. I don't see how comparison of these two roles is appropriate or on topic. The full quote from the article is below:

In 2018, the South Australian government established the role of "Commissioner for Aboriginal Children and Young People".^[1] At the role's creation, the Premier Stephen Marshall was quoted saying, "In creating this new position, we have established a highly visible and powerful champion for a segment of our community which has been consistently underrepresented in the past."^[2]
April Lawrie, Commissioner for Aboriginal Children and Young People, 2018^[3] – current

Secondly, what do folks think about creating a table for each state that contains when and who held the role? Currently the article is quite cluttered and I think this would help. South Australia's section currently has one (even if it repeats information given earlier in the article) and it, plus the subsections, helps a lot. FropFrop (talk) 08:12, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The roles of the people named "protectors" were, at least initially and in part, to protect Indigenous people. The names of these roles and their nature changed over time. That both Victoria and SA have appointed people to protect Indigenous people in modern times is notable and relevant.

Turning the unordered lists into tables may be beneficial, but separating the explanatory text from the names and dates they explain may be much less so. Transient-understanding (talk) 21:50, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd strongly disagree that they were there to protect Indigenous people; They often promoted segregation, forced separation and paternalistic management of Indigenous peoples' affairs at the expense of their rights. The level of power granted to Protectors also sets them apart, nor are their functions/tasks similar. I'd argue that it would be akin to having a the head of the Climate Council given in the article on the Department of Industry, Science, Energy and Resources; their work both involve energy and climate change, but they're considered separate entities. So, even if an initial aspect was to protect Indigenous people, I don't think it appropriate or relevant.

@Can Stan This conversation might be of interest to you, seeing as you've made a similar edit.

I'll have a squizz at the lists at some point in the near future and I'll try and make something that doesn't separate the the explanatory text from the names and dates.

FropFrop (talk) 05:18, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ "About Us". Office of the Commissioner for Aboriginal Children and Young People. Retrieved 2022-04-13.
^ "Commissioner for Aboriginal Children and Young People appointed". John Gardner - State Member for Morialta. Retrieved 2022-04-13.
^ "April Lawrie".

[1] "About Us". Office of the Commissioner for Aboriginal Children and Young People. Retrieved 2022-04-13.

[2] "Commissioner for Aboriginal Children and Young People appointed". John Gardner - State Member for Morialta. Retrieved 2022-04-13.

[3] "April Lawrie".

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