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On 3 December 2017, it was proposed that this article be moved from Correctional medicine to Prison healthcare. The result of the discussion was Moved.

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Requested move 3 December 2017

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The result of the move request was: moved to Prison healthcare. (closed by page mover) Paine Ellsworth ^put'r there 02:16, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Correctional medicine → Prison health care – ... or, alternatively, Prison healthcare. It was suggested at this discussion that using "correctional" in this context is U.S.-centric, as well as that "the care system, not the medicine, ... is different in a prison". According to this Google Ngram, the relative frequency of potential names is as follows (in descending order):

Correctional health care (redirect to this article)
Prison health care (redirect to Prison#Healthcare)
Correctional medicine (redirect to this article)
Prison medicine (redirect to this article)
Prison healthcare (redirect to Prison#Healthcare)
Correctional healthcare (redirect to this article)

I am neutral, so pinging all participants in the earlier discussion: User:DexDor, User:Marcocapelle, User:Necrothesp, User:Peterkingiron, User:Rathfelder -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 03:00, 3 December 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Brad v 05:03, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can see the term Correctional in a prison context is not much used in the English speaking world outside North America, but more importantly it's too like corrective surgery, which is something quite different. Frequency isn't much help in this context, because the US prison system is so much bigger than that in the rest of the world. Rathfelder (talk) 11:29, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Prison healthcare, with Prison health care as a reserve option. Only (I think) in US-English is prison referred to as "correction". That primary use of the word is what a teacher does to his pupil's work. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:31, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Prison healthcare. "Correctional medicine" suggests an operation to correct a defect. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:47, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Health issues of imprisoned people

PMID 29137869 is a recent, top-quality review that presents information about the health effects of exclusion on "homeless populations, individuals with substance use disorders, sex workers, and imprisoned individuals". The article is free to read, so please consider whether it could be useful to expand, update, or source articles such as this one. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:13, 26 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Considering this article for an academic project

I would like to add a section to this article on women's healthcare in prisons. I think there is a lot of information that could be added about the specific challenges to caring for female inmates. A list of potential references on this topic is on my user page. Nicolekoonce (talk) 05:19, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

expanding article

Hi all, I noticed this article could be more comprehensive (e.g. talking about how healthcare in the prison system t differs between different genders, mental health, and how it could impact people after they get out of prison). If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to check out my user page, where I have started compiling sources for this! Angelalin79 (talk) 02:48, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Angelalin79, I think I'll be working to expand this article too. I've dropped a number of sources to use for citations in the Further reading section. For myself, after I incorporate those, I think having the article cover more than just 2 countries is a needed improvement. —Wingedserif (talk) 23:23, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of Disparities in Prison Healthcare

Hi everyone, as students at Georgetown University currently taking a course on “Medicine, Race, & Gender” over the summer that studies the historic neglect of certain identities by the medical field, we’d like to second the suggestion of user Angelalin79 on addressing the current disparities in prison healthcare within the article. In addition to inequalities on the basis of gender, the quality of care inmates receive is also highly dependent on race and ethnicity, sexuality, and socioeconomic class. Below is a summary of our ideas for expansion and possible sources to use: --Uroojahmed (talk) 03:37, 6 July 2021 (UTC)Uroojahmed[reply]

Additions: As user Nicolekoonce mentions, the female inmates face physical and mental disparities on the basis of sex. Their treatment within prisons largely differs from the treatment of male inmates. I think that it would be beneficial to mention how gender disparities present themself in the treatment of mental health. The APA has published a study that claims that 73% of women in state prisons have mental health issues in comparison to 55% of men in state prisons[1]. This difference is even greater for women belonging to marginalized groups who are at greater risk due to factors such as domestic abuse, poverty, or drug abuse.

Speaking of marginalized communities, Black communities face different healthcare treatment in comparison to other racial groups. Outside of prisons, it is difficult for Black and brown communities to attain proper healthcare. Compared to other racial groups, Black men are the most likely to utilize prison healthcare than any other race due to inaccessibility otherwise[2]. Adequate health insurance, medical treatment, and regular medical visits are difficult to attain, and many Black citizens depend on prison care to supply this need.

Revisions: It could be mentioned under the Ethics and Rights section how much of prison procedures are reflective of the prison/medical industrial complex, including the forced medication of many inmates. As part of our class, we read prison abolitionist Angela Davis’s account of her own time in arrest where authorities pacified anyone they deemed to be psychologically abnormal, a diagnosis that especially harmed black women, through the indiscriminate prescription of psychotropic drugs (Ben-Moshe et al., Disability Incarcerated). The Supreme Court case of Washington v. Harper cemented the reduced rights of inmates over their bodily autonomy, ruling that the incarcerated, if deemed to suffer from a serious mental disorder, can be involuntarily medicated without their consent by the state. It may be helpful to outlink to [[1]] for greater context. In regards to the History section, mention of patients’ descriptions of their symptoms being undermined and disregarded due to accusations of “malingering to avoid labor” on slave plantations could also include the precedent of abusing these slaves for medical research. Other articles to link out to for more information on how the black body was seen as inherently inferior, genetically more prone to diseases, and more tolerant of pain include: [Apartheid], [Syphilis Study], [Racism], and [Experimentation in Africa]. --Nr584 (talk) 03:37, 6 July 2021 (UTC)Nr584[reply]

Hi both, thanks for taking on the expansion of this article. What you've described sounds like a good, necessary inclusion to what we have so far about prison healthcare. I do want to direct you to one of the subsections about WP's neutral-point-of-view rules: WP:DUE. I tagged this article a while ago because it has a heavy US/UK slant, which gives undue weight to those two countries compared to the rest of the world. In making your additions, please try to balance your sources/coverage to include other countries in your analysis. (This also might mean more drastic restructuring for the article, particularly the History section.) Thanks! —Wingedserif (talk) 16:13, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, my name is Robbie Werdiger, and I am a sophomore at Georgetown currently working on ways to improve this article as part of my English Disability class. I thought the article was comprehensive and covered most of the main points surrounding prison healthcare, but I noted a few areas that could use improvement.

1st paragraph-add in specific examples of mental health illness and infectious diseases History-go more in depth on experimentation on prisoners and unethical treatment Ethics-expand and clarify dual loyalty program and organ donation system in prisons US-clear up contradictions, says prisons best and most affordable place to receive medical treatment but then says many prisoners go untreated

General addition: talk about how individuals with different identities based on age, race, class, gender, religion, disability, etc. are treated differently within the prison healthcare system — Preceding unsigned comment added by RFW17 (talk • contribs) 21:38, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Additions

Hi, my name is Robbie Werdiger, and I am a sophomore at Georgetown currently working on ways to improve this article as part of my English Disability class. I thought the article was comprehensive and covered most of the main points surrounding prison healthcare, but I noted a few areas that could use improvement.

1st paragraph-add in specific examples of mental health illness and infectious diseases History-go more in depth on experimentation on prisoners and unethical treatment Ethics-expand and clarify dual loyalty program and organ donation system in prisons US-clear up contradictions, says prisons best and most affordable place to receive medical treatment but then says many prisoners go untreated

General addition: talk about how individuals with different identities based on age, race, class, gender, religion, disability, etc. are treated differently within the prison healthcare system

`RFW17 (talk) 21:43, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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