Talk:Prince Nikolaos of Greece and Denmark

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Should we add a line or two about his presence at the Slip Inn, when his cousin Frederik met Mary Donaldson? Seems like an important event.Prsgoddess187 16:54, 19 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tatiana Blatnik's roots

Tatiana's precise birthdate is not given by her nor any communication from the greek RF. Her father's name is not confirmed (it is under some uncertainty).

I have been wondering why her father's name has been two different ones in information spread in media and internet. One version maintains that her father was Ladislav Blatnik, or Ladislav Vladimir Blatnik, who appeared in media already in the 1960s (long time before Tatiana's claimed birthyear) as a ready Venezuelan shoe industrialist. Another name presented somewhere is Petar/Peter Blatnik. These two names probably are not the same person.

Some media seems to have that Tatiana was left (half-)orphan at the age of six. That would mean her father died in about 1986. Additionally, it seems to be said her father died in some sort of accident. Shilkanni (talk) 14:53, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

about Ladislav Vladimir Blatnik (fl 1965): he was surely at a grandfather's age when Tatiana was born (in 1980). Of course, men in their sixties or so, still may sire children..... but it's not that usual.

Some media source has been presenting that in the 1960s, the Ladislav Blatnik who was industrialist in Venezuela, would have been from Austria. Presuming that the home region (Slovenia) presented for Ladislav elsewhere is correct, and knowing that Slovenia belonged to the Austrian empire up to c1919, but then became part of Yugoslavia, the 1965 Ladislav would been born in 1918 or earlier. Well, I find it pretty plausible that an industrialist in 1960s was at that time in his forties or older. A very young man hardly could have reached the business status of industrialist, mill owner, and particularly in a foreign country as immigrant there.

The 1960s business status imo necessitates that the Ladislav Blatnik was born in the 1920s at latest. But the additional mention of having been born in Austria, would time his birth to earlier, such as in the 1910s at latest.

If and when the 1960s-media-attested Ladislav Blatnik was Tatiana's father, in the birthyear (1980) of Tatiana, Ladislav would have been relatively old. If born in the 1910s, he was between 60 and 70 years of age. (and even if born in the 1920s, still nearing his sixty in 1980)

Out of hand, I would think that Ladislav is better suited to actually been Tatiana's paternal grandfather than her father. But, as these are unconfirmed, it's simply conjectural,.....

I read from some media an allegation that Tatiana would have told that her father was Ladislav, but I do not know whether this can be relied on. Shilkanni (talk) 20:55, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Orders

User:Willthacheerleader18 these vague things you write cannot serve as arguments for the reversals you make. You need sources; and sources not only don't exist but say the exact opposite. Read here https://www.thecourtjeweller.com/2014/09/page/6 which says exactly that these medals (except for the medals of the two orders "George" and "Sofia"), are awarded by the Greek state now.

Also, I can see that you have a sense of ownership of the relevant articles, I hope I am wrong. Either way, we need sources. Lord Mountbutter (talk) 17:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit summary stated "medals were abolished when Nicholas was 5 years old" which is not true, as the orders are still functioning. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 19:13, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since 1973 the medals have been awarded by the President of the Republic, but you already know that. If the medals had been awarded to him by the President of the Republic, you can be sure there would have been plenty of sources. Lord Mountbutter (talk) 19:19, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So you confirm that the orders are not "abolished" as you claimed in your edit summary. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 19:38, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I meant that the King no longer awards them. Lord Mountbutter (talk) 19:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Change in sovereign of an order and abolishment of an order are two entirely different things. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 19:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Only "Redeemer" and "Phoenix" are in force. Lord Mountbutter (talk) 19:46, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yet again, that was not what you stated in your original edit summary and the various order's individual Wikipedia articles state otherwise. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 19:52, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I got the wording wrong. I'll check the Orders articles Lord Mountbutter (talk) 19:56, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are right about Greek orders! they don't clarify a lot of things. I will try to make some corrections and to add sources. Lord Mountbutter (talk) 20:11, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]