Talk:Pong Hau K'i

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Error in "Starting position"

Incorrect info in version from 16:37, 4 January 2015, section "Starting position": the image described as 'The only possible type of losing move' (added in this version) presents in fact the move impossible in the game. --CiaPan (talk) 09:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC) (typo corrected 20:34, 7 February 2015 (UTC))[reply]

All sources I have say that this move is only illegal on the first play of the game, but it is an error in the sense that there are two different winning moves, of which this would be one. Darrah (talk) 14:58, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, this is an error because this move is not possible. There is no such position and no such move of player A which would result in the player B having THAT move possible. See, the position on the image is already the player B win, as A pegs are blocked. Player B has won one move ago and has no 'losing move' now. --CiaPan (talk) updated 09:32, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Do-quti

There is a game similar to Do-Guti with a similar name called Do-quti which is also played in India, but no specific region is mentioned. Do-quti was described in Games of the World: How to Make Them, How to Play Them, How They Came to Be by Frederic V. Grunfeld (Editor) (1975).^[1] They may be the same game, but the description is a bit vague. It does mention that the board consist of only 5 points, specifically a 3 x 3 square board, but with only the four corner points and the center point available for use (thus the middle points of the four sides of the board are disregarded). Each player has two balls, and he places them on any two vacant points on the board provided that they are adjacent to one another, i.e., they are connected by a line between them and with no point inbetween them. The book however does not provide a specific diagram for Do-quti, but as mentioned earlier, it does suggest using a 3 x 3 square board, and diagramed in the book is a 3 x 3 square board with line segments (edges) connected to each adjacent (intersection) point. This is what makes the rules vague, as we don't know if the removal of the middle points of each of the four sides of the board also means that no edge runs between each of the four corner points (or that some pair of corner points have edges connecting them, but other pairs do not). In Do-Guti (as in Pong Hau K'i and Ou-moul-ko-no or Umul Gonu), only one pair of corner points is missing an edge between them. The rest of the rules is the same as that of Pong Hau K'i, and Do-quti is specifically mentioned as a game with no captures with the goal of blocking your opponents pieces from moving. Anyone reading this might want to verify if this is indeed a variant or the same game as Do-Guti (or Pong Hau K'i et al) as I can't find any other sources for this game. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎ Aamma58 (talk • contribs) 12:45, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Grunfeld, Frederic V. (1975). Games of the World: How to Make Them, How to Play Them, How They Came to Be. New York: Holt, Rinehart and Winston. p. 265. ISBN 0030152615. Retrieved 24 September 2018.

[GrunfeldDo-quti-1] Grunfeld, Frederic V. (1975). Games of the World: How to Make Them, How to Play Them, How They Came to Be. New York: Holt, Rinehart and Winston. p. 265. ISBN 0030152615. Retrieved 24 September 2018.

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