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I threw up at a Ponderosa. Richardkselby 16:54, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good for you. Do you use the toilet by yourself too? Modor 00:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)Modor[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Ponderosa logo.gif

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This isn't even the current Ponderosa logo, and hasn't been for some time, since at least 2003. It's not listed as such.Jgera5 04:21, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bonanza was founded in 1963 according to the text and Poderosa in 1968 but in the Infobar is says, under the Ponderosa logo, that it was founded in 1965. Either 1963 or 1968 is the founding date depending on whether you mean Bonanza or Ponderosa, but neither was founded in 1965. Deedeebee (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 12:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]

This is wrong....

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"Ponderosa began operations to Canada in 1977, amid little apparent demand in the US, and remained in Canada until 1984..."

Because there was still a Ponderosa in Cornwall, Ontario until approx. 1986, which is also the last time I ate at the Canadian location, also, there was still a Ponderosa in Bedford, Nova Scotia until approx. 2008. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.188.65.145 (talk) 23:57, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It also seems to imply there were no "Pondersoa"s in the US, which I think is wrong. There was a chain in the US Southeast in the 1960s with a catchy jingle: "Ponderosa Steakhouse Meet Your Friends There, Where Good Eatin' is a Family Affair!". I came to WP to find the history of *that* chain. Could someone verify they are the same?75.112.74.173 (talk) 20:20, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 December 2018

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Moved to Ponderosa and Bonanza Steakhouses. The nom finds that to be an acceptable alternative. Rather than "&", the word "and" is used because it has not been established that "&" is predominately used in reliable secondary sources. As is usual for a result like this, a new RM can be opened at any time to garner consensus for a better title if one exists. Kudos to editors for your input, and Happy Publishing! (nac by page mover) Paine Ellsworth, ed.  put'r there  01:48, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Ponderosa Steakhouse and Bonanza SteakhousePonderosa Steakhouse – None of the establishments in this chain are/were named "Ponderosa Steakhouse and Bonanza Steakhouse". Each is branded either "Ponderosa Steakhouse" or "Bonanza Steakhouse", but never both nor any combination of the two names. Per WP:CONCISE, either name would be a preferable title to the combined title (with the other as a redirect, naturally). As for which brand to choose as the title, there are currently Bonanza restaurants only within the United States while there are also Ponderosa restaurants in Puerto Rico, the Middle East, and Taiwan. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:44, 4 December 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. bd2412 T 14:41, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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The more I look the messier this gets. Another example given at wp:AND (a section of the article title policy) is Balkline and straight rail. But that's an incredible mess, and it looks to me as if the poor choice of this article scope (and hence the title Balkline and straight rail) is the key issue here. Balkline is a very dubious DAB. Balkline billiards should probably redirect to a section of billiards, or may be a good article topic itself... it certainly should not just redirect to the definition at Glossary of cue sports terms as currently. But so help me... billiards is a redirect to cue sports. Will we next redirect baseball to bat sports? The mind boggles!

In summary, to have such a mess as one of the examples at WP:AT makes me suspect that this area of the policy is seriously broken. Andrewa (talk) 00:50, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It seems silly to refer to WP:AND as "policy", even if it happens to be on a policy page (where most of what's there is convention and guideline). It advises to try to avoid "and", but says it's sometimes OK. Does it need to be more prescriptive than that? Dicklyon (talk) 05:17, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. Perhaps this bit should be split out of WP:AT. I still think that to have it on the policy page is seriously busted. Andrewa (talk) 15:09, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 July 7#🎱 might be relevant? Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:58, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Very relevant, thank you. Yes, the mess continues and deepens. Andrewa (talk) 22:52, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

FAT brands redirects here but should have its own page.

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From https://ir.fatbrands.com/company/overview/default.aspx

FAT Brands is a leading, global, multi-brand, restaurant franchising company that strategically develops, markets, and acquires restaurant concepts worldwide. We currently operate Fatburger, Buffalo’s Cafe, Buffalo's Express, Hurricane Grill & Wings, Yalla Mediterranean, Ponderosa and Bonanza Steakhouses, and Elevation Burger that have over 300 locations open and more than 300 under development in 32 countries. Wfdexter (talk) 18:08, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Wfdexter, FAT Brands has its own page. P37307 (talk) 06:45, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t believe it did in 2019 but agree it does now. Wfdexter (talk) 20:00, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ponderosa Halifax

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There was still a Ponderosa in Halifax, Nova Scotia, technically Bedford, NS, it appeared to still be operating in early 2008, but then closed, I think it may have been a completely privately owned location. I saw a similar thing in Ottawa, ON with a Radio Shack store. 24.244.29.206 (talk) 06:21, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]