Talk:Pokémon Go/Archive 4
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Journal articles
Below are links to studies released on the societal and health effects of Pokémon Go. The long-believed physical/mental benefits have been verified and are worth inclusion.
- The Pikachu effect: Social and health gaming motivations lead to greater benefits of Pokémon GO use Computers in Human Behavior
- Does Pokémon Go lead to a more physically active life style? Computers in Human Behavior
- Motives Matter: Motives for Playing Pokémon Go and Implications for Well-Being Cyberpsychology Behavior and Social Networking
- Examining Motivations to Play Pokémon GO and Their Influence on Perceived Outcomes and Physical Activity JMIR Serious Games
- Understanding collocated social interaction between Pokémon GO players Proceedings of the 16th International Conference on Mobile and Ubiquitous Multimedia
- Pokémon WALK: Persuasive Effects of Pokémon GO Game-Design Elements Persuasive Technology
- Key factors in the triumph of Pokémon GO Business Horizons
- Uses and Gratifications of Pokémon Go: Why do People Play Mobile Location-Based Augmented Reality Games? International Journal of Human–Computer Interaction
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Criticism section
I addressed the maintenance tag and removed content. I have no issue with content being re-added if it is truly notable. Szzuk (talk) 15:33, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Misleading claim: "data from Ingress to populate the locations for PokéStops and gyms within Pokémon Go, data from Google Maps to spawn specific Pokémon on certain terrain, and map display from OpenStreetMap since December 2017."
Specifically the statement "data from Google Maps to spawn specific Pokémon on certain terrain"
The Mashable article linked as a source for that statement [1] recounts that "Deciding which Pokémon would appear where required a whole extra set of mapping data" and that John Hanke stated that although he "could not disclose its origins, another data set used in the game is drawn from the geographic classification of an area based on climate, vegetation and soil or rock type. "That gets into more geographic information system-type of data ... and we utilise that to map Pokémon species to appropriate habitats.""
To this day, the technical factors/data sources behind habitats/biomes in Pokemon GO remain somewhat shrouded in mystery. Even back in 2016, well before Pokemon GO transitioned to OpenStreetMap for visuals there was a developing body of evidence that OpenStreetMap (and possibly other yet-unknown resources) played a role in the backend of things, with OpenStreetMap influencing factors such as nests and water type pokemon at the very least since launch. Assigning this to Google Maps is not accurate and is not what the original source claims.
The dates on the transition to OpenStreetMap visuals are also incorrect:
Pokemon GO launched using OpenStreetMap map data for visuals in South Korea (and only South Korea) in January 2017 due to legal issues associated with using Google Maps in that country: https://medium.com/seoul-libre-maps/views-on-digital-maps-and-open-data-f225afc81412 https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/23/pokemon-go-finally-finally-finally-finally-finally-finally-finally-finally-finally-in-south-korea/
And to be really fussy, Pokemon GO began transitioning to OpenStreetMap for (global) visuals at the end of November 2017, not December, it was a rolling change that took place over several hours: https://pokemongohub.net/post/news/game-map-updated-openstreetmap-data-imported-notable-changes-around-globe/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/7ghoyo/ingame_map_has_just_been_updated_with_before_and/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Woodwosewulf (talk • contribs) 04:52, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Generations
Can we put the list of gens please? Some people are confused on to which generation is out.Porygon-Z (talk) 01:01, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
- Seems like WP:GAMECRUFT. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 03:24, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- I've read the requirements and I don't think it is but I'm not sure. It says that you can add a table but it can't be the cost, codes, or any varied detail. gens are a fact proved by Game Freak themselves, so I don't know. Porygon-Z (talk) 18:19, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
Why can't this page be edited?
It needs to be edited to update some information. Lucas two (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:01, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
I will update the information here so that those who can edit this page will do it.
"The game launched with around 150 species of Pokémon, which had increased to over 530 by 2019." Lucas two (talk) 06:17, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- While that is true, you most likely would want to say something referring to the facts that there are more than 530 Pokemon now. Since the game updated with Mime Jr. and now other Generation 5 Pokemon, there will be more in the future. Besides this is 2019 still, for now. So I'd say something about how the game is continuing to grow and as of now over 530 Pokemon In the Pokemon Go world until the next recent update. Porygon-Z (talk) 19:26, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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The addition of the introduction of Galarian Pokémon as well as Mega Evolutions should be added to the Gameplay section (June 2020). Furthermore, the changes that Niantic has taken to address the COVID-19 pandemic, as well as the introduction of GO Battle League (January 2020). Don the First (talk) 23:10, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:32, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
The current number of Pokemon in Go
The current number of Pokemon in Go is about 600 (by 2020). Please help to change it in top. Lucas two (talk) 16:04, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
- Do you have a source saying this? Pikavoom (talk) 07:14, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Pokemon go as an experiment in Surveillance Capitalism
I'm curious why there is no talk of the Surveillance capitalism aspects of Pokémon Go. In the article of Surveillance capitalism Pokémon Go is mentioned as an example of Surveillance Capitalism. In this interview Shoshana Zuboff explains this strategy of Niantic Labs. Also, the business model of Niantic Labs is not clearly defined on the page. From the text in the current article, it seems like Niantic Labs is not getting paid by advertisers, but on their business page they explain the benefits differently, the title "Customers, on Demand" doesn't hide this intention. --2A02:8109:9880:49D0:400B:6A80:C682:B45D (talk) 22:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- The "surveillance" bit sounds like a personal opinion, and the practices mentioned in the interview do not seem to be widely accepted facts. Niantic's business model may be suitable for the company's page, not PoGo's. --Luminoxius (talk) 01:24, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Could we be more specific about what practices mentioned in the interview?
- Business model is indeed (party) trough advertising, and thus influencing the behaviour of the players
- Niantic labs is incubated inside Google, Google is still partly owner and stakeholder
- One of the parts of Surveillance capitalism are that the behaviour of humans is influenced by the platforms which they openly say on their business page.
- One other part is that it is hidden/disguised from the users, which I guess could be true for most users, and by not saying anything on this page, we don't change this (Normal users might check out Pokemon Go on wiki)
- Since the business model is mentioned on this page it should be mentioned fully, and not only the consumer facing perception of the business model. I agree with you that surveillance has some negative connotations to it, but I guess it could be mentioned in Criticism and incidents, since it is critique and related to the game Pokemon Go. Shoshana Zuboff is widely cited in the Science and technology studies field. In her book The Age of Surveillance Capitalism she spends page 292 - 301 explaining the model of Pokémon Go, using plenty of references. The tone of voice in the interview might be too negative, but initially I didn't hear anything that isn't true, given the references in her book. Lemio (talk) 14:26, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
The information regarding the number of pokemon available needs updated
This afternoon, I noticed that the term "pokedex" has only two appearances in the article. One of these is an unexplained reference to an asian player. The other is an article that talks about the number of pokemon available during the first year. It seems relevant that either that note, or the body of the article, at the very least mentions the current number of pokemon, with, I presume, some sort of reference to separate pages detailing each Niantic pokemon generation and hopefully when the pokemon became available. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lvirden (talk • contribs) 18:24, May 6, 2019 (UTC)
Considering the number of Pokemon changes on a weekly basis I do not know if it is worth the effort. And then you start getting into variants of existing Pokemon. Kav2001c (talk) 10:54, 9 January 2021 (UTC)kav2001c
Sounds like it should the number of pokemon should either be deleted or updated to improve the article's trustworthiness 20th_anniversary([User Talk:20th_anniversary:talk]) — Preceding undated comment added 22:21, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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I want to edit one thing, if anyone want to read about "how to play pokemon go without moving" Then on this page there in no such information about such thing. Becasue nowadays, a lot of people are searching for pokemon go hack and how to play this game with joystick. It is a very popular game of 2016, which crossed 1 millions download in one month. So it is important for you to give your reader a valid response to play pokemon go without moving. So I am here with a website blog in which all such information is given. https://techyjungle.com/pokemon-go-hack/ Jamesamy9896 (talk) 07:23, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Not done: Wikipedia is not a game guide, a how to guide on how to play pokemon go without moving is probably not information fit for a Wikipedia article. I also don't think that website would be an appropriate external link or an appropriate reference. It does seem that some mainstream sources have picked up on the fact that you can play without moving [1], but I don't see any great place to put that in the article. Feel free to re-open the request (change "answered=yes" to "answered=no") if you have a request for how such information might be included into the article. Volteer1 (talk) 12:09, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Pokemon GO officially released in Turkey
This should be important, right?
- @SineBot: Your code is broken… 209.52.88.169 (talk) 15:15, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
No evidence that Iwata and Ishihara conceived of the Google Challenge
Hey, I've been doing research on Pokemon Go, and at the start of the development section, it says that Iwata and Ishihara conceived of the concept for the game when they came up with the Google challenge. But the cited source doesn't mention that. I finally found a source that says who came up with it, finding info about who conceived of the challenge idea, and other early development stuff was hard. Tatsuo Nomura apparently, while working for Google, "lit on the idea to do a game based on [Pokemon]" and "on a trip to Japan, he got permission from The Pokémon Company." I might also expand on the development section in general with this article, as it contains a lot of unique info. I am busy so it might take me a while. If someone else wants to change this for me go ahead, or if you have proof that I'm mistaken, please feel free to let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SmileyTrek (talk • contribs) 18:49, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
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List of deaths
I have created a list article not suitable for Wikipedia, but i can merge it here.
Name | Cause of Death | Death date | Game/Item that caused death | Ref. |
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Unknown 13-month old girl | Baby couldn't breathe after the red plastic half of the Pokeball container covered her mouth and nose. she later died of lack of breath. On December 23 of the same year, an 18-month old girl almost died from the same cause. | 1999/12/11 | Pokemon Burger King Pokeball | [2] |
Jerson Lopez de Leon | Shot dead because he trespesed into a house to catch a pokemon | 2016/07/20 | Pokemon Go | [2] |
Catherine Stalker | Missing, then found dead | 2016/07/24 | Pokemon Go | [3] |
Unknown male | Killed in traffic accedent | 2016/07/28 | Pokemon Go | [4] |
Tanami Nayler | Hit and dragged with a stolen car | 2016/08/04 | Pokemon Go | [5] |
Calvin Riley | Walking on the promenade along the water and playing the popular cellphone game when he was gunned down. | 2016/08/07 | Pokemon Go | [6] |
Romane Nunn | Beaten and stabbed by someone | 2016/08/20 | Pokemon Go | [7] |
Yukiko Nakanishi | Killed by a driver distracted by Pokemon Go | 2016/08/25 | Pokemon Go | [8] |
Aichi Prefecture | Killed by a driver distracted by Pokemon Go | 2016/08/26 | Pokemon Go | [9] |
Mari Himori | Killed by a crane distracted by Pokemon Go | 2016/12/08 | Pokemon Go | [10] |
Carl Gregory | Involved in a fight about Pokemon leading to his murder. | 2016/10/05 | Pokemon Go | [11] |
Ryan Mannes | In the car playing pokemon go when struck by an intoxicated motorcyclist. | 2016/10/15 | Pokemon Go | [12] |
Keita Noritake | Struck by a truck driver playing Pokemon Go | 2016/10/28 | Pokemon Go | [13] |
Unknown Male | Died in heart attack shortly after caching a rare Lapras Pokemon in the game. | 2017/03/01 | Pokemon Go | [14] |
James Timmons | Well loved, tried to find pokemon but killed by gunshots. | 2017/11/04 | Pokemon Go | [15] |
Unknown Female | Killed by distracted driver distracted by Pokemon Go | 2018/04/16 | Pokemon Go | [16] |
Sobieraj | Died while playing pokemon go and pushed by a young girl. | 2020/02/19 | Pokemon Go | [17] |
Eliyahu Moscowitz | Friendship made via pokemon go, died after being shot with the pokemon go friendship | 2018/10/02 | Pokemon Go | [18] |
Cayla Campos | Was in the car with her boyfriend playing Pokemon Go and died due to gunshots. | 2019/10/20 | Pokemon Go | [19] |
UNKNOWN | Was finding Pikachu while killed by a stranger named Jonathan Peterson because he did not give him US$5 and a cigarette | 2020/02/05 | Pokemon Go | [20] |
Joseph Marasco | Was going to 7/11 and stopped for a Pokemon, then got shot by Matthew Gerwitz when they stopped in front of his house. He got 175 years in prison. | 2020/04/26 | Pokemon Go | [21] |
References
- ^ https://mashable.com/2016/07/10/john-hanke-pokemon-go/
- ^ a b Couzens, Gerard; Shammas, John (July 20, 2016). "Pokémon GO 'sees its first death after 18-year-old breaks into house'". mirror.
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- ^ "Danish Pokémon hunter killed in traffic accident". July 28, 2016.
- ^ "Pokémon GO death: Woman dragged 70 meters by stolen car EJINSIGHT - ejinsight.com". EJINSIGHT.
- ^ "Man killed while playing 'Pokemon Go' in park near San Francisco's Fisherman's Wharf". Los Angeles Times. August 8, 2016.
- ^ Geyer, Thomas. "Police identify LeClaire Park stabbing victim". The Quad-City Times.
- ^ Auto, Hermes (August 24, 2016). "Woman hit by vehicle in Japan's first Pokemon Go-related death | The Straits Times". www.straitstimes.com.
- ^ Author, No (August 26, 2016). "Second deadly road accident linked to 'Pokemon Go' in Japan". The Japan Times.
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- ^ Robinson, Elissa. "Police: Intoxicated motorcyclist kills boy playing Pokémon Go". Detroit Free Press.
- ^ Auto, Hermes (October 28, 2016). "9-year-old boy killed by truck driver playing Pokemon Go in central Japan | The Straits Times". www.straitstimes.com.
- ^ Mills, Jen (March 1, 2017). "Man died moments after catching rare Pokemon Lapras".
- ^ "Tacoma Police seek tips to ID suspect who killed well-loved Pokemon Go player". FOX13 News Seattle Washington KCPQ. November 14, 2017.
- ^ "85-year-old woman fatally struck by driver playing Pokemon Go". Japan Today.
- ^ "UPDATED: Girl guilty on all counts in Sobieraj's death". recorder.
- ^ McDevitt, Michael (October 3, 2018). "A Vigil for a Friend Follows Second Rogers Park Murder in Two Days".
- ^ "Police investigate robbery tied to overnight shooting death | KOB 4". web.archive.org. October 20, 2019.
- ^ "Pokémon Go player who was hunting for Pikachu is knifed in the neck after he refused to give a stranger $5 and a cigarette". web.archive.org. November 20, 2020.
- ^ "DA: A game of Pokemon Go — was what started a shooting in the City of Tonawanda that left one man dead and a police detective injured". August 26, 2020.
@204.100.235.134 Not merged: Your addition is not suitable for Wikipedia. See below for more information:
Adding lists of people who died from the use of an app (or from nearly anything else) is not the purpose of Wikipedia. Creating memorials of people is also not the purpose of Wikipedia. If you have any other questions, you may either leave a message on my talk page, or ask for assistance at the Teahouse. Thank you. --Streetlampguy301 (talk) 21:52, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
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Lead: the sentence "the game is the result of a collaboration between Niantic, Nintendo and The Pokémon Company" is redundant because the prior sentence states that the game was "developed and published by Niantic in collaboration with Nintendo and The Pokémon Company for iOS and Android devices." Please remove the redundant sentence. Thank you! 2001:B07:6469:3006:2833:F11F:CA16:5B66 (talk) 18:44, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Capitalization
Why does Pokémon GO redirect here? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Pokémon GO is the games official name. See, e.g. https://www.pokemon.com/us/app/pokemon-go/--DeirdreAnne(talk • contribs) 20:58, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
The first legendary released
The article says "The first Legendary Pokémon released was Groudon, in December 2017" but this is contradicted by the citation as well as later parts of the article which state "Articuno and Lugia, were released on July 22, 2017, after the Go Fest, with Moltres and Zapdos following. From September to November, the 3 Legendary Beasts: Entei, Raikou and Suicune, were released shortly after, rotating regions every month. Following their departure, the Legendary Pokémon Ho-Oh appeared in Raid Battles from November 27, 2017, to December 12, 2017" 27.33.241.141 (talk) 10:28, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- The first Legendary Pokémon released was Lugia during Pokémon Go Fest on July 22, 2017.[2] Northsideknights (talk) 16:47, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
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I am requesting access to make edits to this page. My trainer level is 42 and I have been playing consistently since the game came out in 2016. Below you will find an annotated bibliography with some ideas for changes to the page.
Kari, Tuomas, et al. “Behavior Change Types with Pokémon GO.” Proceedings of the 12th International Conference on the Foundations of Digital Games, Association for Computing Machinery, 2017, pp. 1–10. ACM Digital Library, [[3]].
The article discusses the multifaceted behavioral change induced by Pokemon Go. This is currently not a section within the Wikipedia page, but I believe the psychological impact of the game is relevant. The article is from an academic journal from a University library, meaning it is a credible source.
Althoff, Tim, et al. “Influence of Pokémon Go on Physical Activity: Study and Implications.” Journal of Medical Internet Research, vol. 18, no. 12, Dec. 2016, p. e6759. www.jmir.org, https://doi.org/10.2196/jmir.6759.
The article provides an insightful look at the benefits of physical activity resulting from Pokemon Go gameplay. While the Wikipedia page notes how the game promotes physical activity, this academic journal provides a scientific analysis regarding the quantifiable health metrics when playing Pokemon Go. In my opinion, this would be a fascinating section to add to the article, since it is a significant reason why the game became popular in the first place. McWhertor, Michael (2023-03-30). "Pokémon Go is changing how Remote Raid Passes work — and raising prices". Polygon. Retrieved 2023-04-02.
Remote raid passes were one of the revolutionary changes Pokemon Go made during the early stages of the Covid-19 pandemic. Unfortunately, the game is diminishing one of its most popular features that have enabled the game to be played from anywhere. Fans are outraged, and this article details what the future of the game may look like in the coming months. This article comes from Polygon, a credible news outlet for video games.
“Pokémon Go Revenue and Usage Statistics (2023).” Business of Apps, [[4]] Accessed 5 Apr. 2023.
While Pokemon Go has been critically acclaimed for its popularity and innovative game design, little is known about its financial success in recent years. This article from the Business of Apps takes a deep dive into the year-over-year revenue Niantic and Nintendo have generated. The professional website from which I located this article solely exists for the purpose of analyzing the profits generated by mobile apps.
“2022 Pokémon Go World Championships.” Liquipedia Pokémon Wiki, [Championships/Worlds/2022/Pokemon Go.|https://liquipedia.net/pokemon/Pokemon_Championships/Worlds/2022/Pokemon_Go.] Accessed 5 Apr. 2023.
Presently, the Pokemon Go Wikipedia page does not talk about the competitive scene within the game, let alone the first world championships last summer. I believe this article could present additional insight into this game's extensive reach. The current page seems to be written from the perspective of business analysts and casual players, and not from the competitive scene. This source is dedicated to all major video game tournaments throughout history and has all of the accurate information regarding the event. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Northsideknights (talk • contribs) 16:50, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
The current number of Pokemon in Go
The current number of Pokemon in Go is about 800 (by 2023). Please help to change it in top. Lucas two (talk) 14:10, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
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Meltan is misspelt (as "Meltal") in the Pokémon availability subheading of gameplay.
Correct spelling can be found later within the same paragraph.
Please change Meltal to Meltan.
Thank you 110.235.239.63 (talk) 03:32, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
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In Release > Regional availability, add a new paragraph:
In May 2019, the game was released on the Samsung Galaxy Store.[1] Sparatys (talk) 12:05, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- I have made the edit :)
- --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 10:46, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Customization
I would like to add a customization section under the topic of gameplay. The article does not currently including anything about customization and, with the recent updates to the game, customization has become a larger conversation point for players. I am new to editing Wikipedia and would appreciate any feedback. The following it what I propose to add: — Preceding unsigned comment added by YlvaInspired (talk • contribs) 02:39, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Players can customize their avatar's appearance with clothing options that differ in availability according to season, player level, and game sponsors. Clothing includes: hats, accessories, tops, bottoms, socks, footwear and bags. Most clothing aligns with either the look of a specific Pokémon or a specific team and/or Pokémon region. Many pieces of clothing are free, but pieces can also be purchased using coins, earned during select events, awarded as the player levels up, or received as a prize for special research completion.
Another way for a player to customize their avatar is with a pose. Poses, like clothing, are free, purchased, or awarded. Certain poses are event based and can only be earned during the event they are attached to. Once the event is over, there is no guarantee that the pose will be available in-game again.
In April 2024, Pokémon GO was updated to allow greater customization of player avatars. Customization now includes a limited number of different hair styles, the ability to adjust the weight of the avatar, and expanded options for skin color. Further updates to come in April 2024 include updates to GO Snapshot which will allow up to three Pokémon to be photographed at one time. YlvaInspired (talk) 02:34, 21 April 2024 (UTC)