Talk:Pity Party (song)

Requested move 14 March 2016[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. (non-admin closure) — Music1201 ^talk 20:59, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pity Party (Melanie Martinez song) → Pity Party – Unneeded specifying. There's nothing else with the name "Pity Party" on the English Wikipedia, and the current "Pity Party" article just redirects to this one. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 02:22, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:PRECISION. This should have been listed as a technical move request. sst✈ 05:18, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support, speedy. It was meant to be there. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 02:42, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose dozen songs, two albums, two bands - what evidence is there that this song is more notable than all other subjects combined? However if evidence is presented, then and only then Pity Party should move to Pity Party (disambiguation). Imagine this is going to need a relist. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:03, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What the heck, "The song will officially impact contemporary hit radio on March 22, 2016" - this song hasn't even been released yet?, or has been streaming since June 2015 without having made any impact?, either way... how is it even being considered? In ictu oculi (talk) 09:05, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Per WP:RECENT, WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (long term significance), WP:SONGDAB, WP:PRECISION (which Pity Party?), WP:CRYSTALBALL, and ambiguous disambiguation is not a good idea. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:30, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - per In ictu oculi and Richhoncho. Insert CleverPhrase Here 12:02, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose WP:CRYSTAL unreleased song is clearly not a primary topic -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 04:50, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. You're forgetting the Bill Anderson song, would you care to explain in what way this has higher notability? BrookDaCow (talk) 00:27, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- If the Bill Anderson song meets notability guidelines, you may want to create an article on it for us to evaluate its notability. sst✈ 10:20, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
After reading the newly created disambiguation page and the oppose votes above, I reaffirm my support for the move. Until an article is created for any other topic named exactly "Pity Party", this article is still the primary topic for "Pity Party", as it is the only topic of this name with confirmed notability. WP:SMALLDETAILS has always been sufficient for disambiguation purposes, as long as readers can be guided to other topics of similar names quickly, such as with a hatnote. Some opposers claim that this song has not yet been released; the article clearly states that the single was released in June 2015. Richhoncho quoted a bunch of guidelines without explaining how these guidelines oppose the move, despite WP:CRYSTAL advising against predicting what topics would get articles in the future, and WP:SONGDAB and WP:PRECISION advising against unnecessary disambiguation (which is still the case for now). sst✈ 10:33, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What @BrookDaCow: @Richhoncho: @Insertcleverphrasehere: are saying relates to the RM at Wikipedia_talk:Article_titles#RfC:_Artist_name_as_disambiguation_regarding_non-notable_song_titles. Just because a 2015 song which was Alternative Digital Songs No. 22 has a fan create a giant article does not add to the basic issue of notability. In ictu oculi (talk) 20:49, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: In ictu oculi modified the indentations of my comments. sst✈ 08:19, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And I should do it again. Why don't you indent your comments correctly? In ictu oculi (talk) 09:46, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support. This is the only article we have that's actually called "Pity Party", and it's the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC among the very few items prominent enough to get any pageview data from:[1]. It received 18,279 page views in the last 90 days. Other entries from the dab page include the less well known The Pity Party, which received 798 views (and isn't really ambiguous with "Pity Party"); Pity Party (Bill Anderson song), which is just a redirect to Bill Anderson discography, and received only 19 page views, and the dab page itself, which received 300 page views. The Melanie Martinez song received 94% of all page views. The only thing remotely comparable is Puddles Pity Party, which is a partial title match and not ambiguous with this song. The other entries include a 2008 TV episode and a bunch of songs and albums that have no articles and are barely mentioned at any other article. This is a clear-cut WP:PRIMARYTOPIC case.--Cúchullain ^t/c 14:33, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. No clear primary topic. The band are only distinguished by a definite article, which isn't really enough. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:55, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 18 July 2016[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Move unopposed. (non-admin closure) — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 16:27, 27 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pity Party (Melanie Martinez song) → Pity Party (song) – We need to revisit this in light of the RfC on song article titles and recent RMs such as this and this. The prevailing consensus has been to use the concise disambiguator –(song) – if there are no other articles on songs by different artists; in this case there are no other articles on songs titled "Pity Party"; in fact as of today it's still a red link. Cúchullain ^t/c 17:49, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support, per my reasoning in the previous RM. SST flyer 13:05, 27 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello there[edit]

--Chebbycraft34 (talk) 06:27, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Mi Note 11 comes from an offer of the Adopt Me! Event and the song was put to the Xiaomi Mi Note 11 in June 2020.

It'll use the Mi Note 12 in October 2020.