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Merger discussion

The three "T" lines are virtually identical to the main page and don't add much. They should be merged into the main page. ClarkBHM 10:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Panhandle Bridge vs. Monongahela River Bridge

Per the recent change for the LRT bridge over the river, the bridge had formerly been called the Panhandle Bridge, but is now officially called the Monongahela River Bridge. See http://pghbridges.com/pittsburghE/0584-4476/panhandle.htm. I hope that the change I instituted is a satisfactory solution... Thanks! ClarkBHM 01:53, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Map proposal

Hello. I have noticed that this article does not have a map. Doing one for the light rail system would be an interesting idea. MattFisher 19:28, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are several maps out there, but all of the ones that I've seen are copyrighted and not in the public domain. Are you volunteering? :-) ClarkBHM 19:48, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Map Proposal & Panhandle Bridge

I have a few maps that I could put up here. If so, let me know.

Also about the Panhandle Bridge thing, I'd like it kept as Panahandle Bridge. The Port Authority has it's light rail schedules, and still calls the bridge "Panhandle Bridge". Miketherailfan 10:46, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And since this is an article about the Port Authority you want to use their wording. I can see the logic in that. I've reworded it to have the Panhandle Bridge be first with a paranthetical reference to the Monongahela River Bridge. Hopefully that will work for both of us. ClarkBHM 16:37, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Station/Line Grid Proposal

I request someone make one of those station and line grids (i.e. such found on the Washington, DC, Union Station page). I've tried to do it for myself but deemed it too challenging. If someone could make one, I'll do my part in adding station info on 42S, 47S, 47L, and 52 light rail lines. Miketherailfan 8:11 PM, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

What exactly are you looking for, i did some of the work on the WMATA article, so i could easily help out. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 05:31, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Something like this, except for the PAT LRT:

If you could help, I'd appreciate it. Miketherailfan 9:11 AM, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Link to PGH Light Rail Map

I have a few maps that I could put up here. If so, let me know.

Also about the Panhandle Bridge thing, I'd like it kept as Panahandle Bridge. The Port Authority has it's light rail schedules, and still calls the bridge "Panhandle Bridge". http://urbanrail.net/am/pitt/pittsburgh.htm Miketherailfan 10:05, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I added a map, as requested. Let me know if there are any problems with it. Darkcore 19:13, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

52 Allentown question

Does the 52 Allentown have any stops between South Hills Junction and 1st Ave.? It sems like it must or else there wouldn't be much point to running it as a separate line, but none are depicted on the map. --Jfruh (talk) 16:02, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are but I was unable to find a map or list of the stops anywhere on the Port Authority website or elsewhere. Perhaps if you can find them (or if you're a local, and you know the names of the stops), I might be able to add them in. Darkcore 17:03, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can find a few noted on this PDF schedule, though reconstructing the route from this confusing document might be a bit confusing. I'm not local, but my suspicion is that, while the 42 and 47 lines have been reconstructed as modern light rail lines, with clearly defined, spaced-out stops, the 52 is still a classic streetcar operation, with bus-style stops that are marked only with small signs, not set-aside platforms -- this photo illustrates the street-running section of the route. Perhaps you could add in the major stops and then a note indicating that there are more not listed?

If you are going to redo the map, the only nit I would add is that there is a spur to the north of Steel Plaza to Penn Station. 42S trains go there instead of west to Gateway Center during rush hours. Sorry to sound critical of your map -- your trasnit maps are among the best on Wikipedia! I have none of your graphics skills, but if you'd like I can go through that 52 schedule and try to describe where the stops should go... --Jfruh (talk) 17:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't find your comments to be critical or insulting, so don't worry about that - and I'm glad that you like my maps! As for the spur to Penn Station, I can add that easily enough. If you could find the list of major stops for the 52 route, that would be helpful (I tried deciphering that schedule but with limited success). Thanks. Darkcore 15:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll give the interpretation of that schedule a shot, probably tonight -- will post my attempts there. --Jfruh (talk) 15:27, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was able to get their website to provide a nice list of 52 Allentown stops. These would be simple "Bus Stop" signs, not "stations" like on the mainline T. The actual data from the website is copyrighted, but there's nothing preventing someone from riding a 52 with a tape recorder and just noting the intersections.

Here's inbound:

South Hills Jct.
Haberman Ramp opposite Harwood Steps
Warrington Ave. @ Estella
@ Curtin
@ Millbridge
@ Allen
@ Arlington
New Arlington Ave. @ #1047
@ Roanoke (Far Side)
@ Newton (Far Side)
opposite William (Far Side)
First Avenue T Station
Steel Plaza T Station
Wood St. T Station
Gateway Center T Station

And outbound...

Gateway Center T Station
Wood St. T Station
Steel Plaza T Station
First Avenue T Station
New Arlington Ave. past William
opposite Newton
@ #916
past #1047
@ Warrington
Warrington Ave. @ Allen
@ Beltzhoover
opposite Curtin
@ Estella
@ Haberman
Haberman Ramp @ Harwood Steps
South Hills Junction

Hope this helps,
Typofixer76 16:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Separate article for the T?

Wondering what people's opinions would be on creating a separate article for the T with most of the material here on that page, with only a bear bones amount left here. The trend on Wikipedia seems to be to give fixed-reail networks pages separate from the agencies that operate them. (See for instance Baltimore Light Rail and Maryland Transit Administration.) --Jfruh (talk) 21:19, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eliminated Routes

The following is a list of eliminated routes, effective June 17, that includes alternate service where available in parentheses:

1B Saxonburg Boulevard (D Middle Road Flyer)
1C Middle Road (D Middle Road Flyer)
5C Natrona Heights-Brackenridge
11A McKnight (12A North Hills Shopper, 13C Perry Highway Express)
11F West View
13D Perrysville Express (6B Spring Hill, 11D Perrysville, 16F City View)
15A North Hills Shuttle
25C Hankey Farms
25D Robinson-Carnegie
28F Forest Grove Express
28G Oakdale Express
31A Crafton-Carnegie
36B Virginia Manor
41A Pioneer Avenue (41D Brookline, 41G Dormont)
50B Glassport-Clairton (55M Century III Mall)
65E North Braddock-Swissvale
73B Highland Park Express (93A Aspinwall-Cheswick Express)
79B Wilkinsburg-Penn Hills
83B Lincoln Avenue Express (LP Lincoln Park Flyer)
88A East Hills Express
91S Sharps Hill
501 Manchester-Wilkinsburg (16D Manchester, 61A East Pittsburgh-Wilkinsburg)
CL Clairton Flyer (46G Elizabeth)
CV Churchview Flyer (51D Churchview)
DB Middle Road-Burchfield Flyer (D Middle Road Flyer)
F Homestead Park-Lincoln Place Flyer (53F Homestead-Lincoln Place)
GR Greensburg Pike-White Oak Flyer (G Greensburg Pike Flyer)
JL Jefferson-Large Flyer
SW Spencer-Willett Flyer (51B Spencer)
U East Vue Flyer (78E Penn Hills-East Vue) —Preceding unsigned comment added by BWCNY (talk • contribs) 18:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Port of Pittsburgh Commission is a state agency

The Port of Pittsburgh Commission, an agency of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, does port development and operations in twelve southwestern Pennsylvania counties. An article on this agency is needed. Starting reference:

http://www.port.pittsburgh.pa.us/home/index.asp

Allegheny County Port Authority is a transit agency, and despite its name, has nothing to do with port development. Perhaps at its inception it was authorized to do so.--DThomsen8 (talk) 11:28, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bus fleet section

I'm looking over the section for the fleet of buses, and think it needs a complete overhaul.

I'm making some attempts on finding appropriate references and switch the bullet list into a properly sorted table (or two).

In addition, I'd like to remove a lot of the trivial entries such as "differences in exhaust pipes", to name at least of a few.

Is anyone else working on something similar to this? It looks like a lot of sorting work.

--Allamericanbear (talk) 14:19, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Additional Cuts in 2012 possible

State government is delaying on permanent funding of PAAC: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11295/1184094-454-0.stm STrRedWolf (talk) 23:55, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Lenzer Coach Lines routes

I removed the Lenzer Coach Lines busses from the Bus Fleet section as the routes they were used on were removed in the early 2010s service cuts, but someone has readded the section. However, I just want to make sure that they haven’t been readded to the PAAC fleet as someone seems like they very much believe they should be kept in the article. Just want to see what the general conclusion is. Bacon BMW (talk) 16:48, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

After some research, the Lenzner Coach Line routes are no longer operated for Port Authority, and therefore the coaches are no longer part of the Port Authority fleet. I don't want to keep undoing people's edits, so please reply if you disagree. Bacon BMW (talk) 23:08, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

13K is sponsored by UPMC. I noticed on their buses. 2601:540:2:D590:182E:264:44BD:1DE (talk) 21:26, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Name change

The name of the agency was recently changed from "Port Authority of Allegheny County" ("PAAC") to "Pittsburgh Regional Transit" ("PRT"). Technically changing the name of the organization would take an act of the state legislature so the correct way that this should be represented is to keep the title of the page "Pittsburgh Regional Transit" and then in the first sentence say "The Port Authority of Allegheny County (PAAC) doing business as Pittsburgh Regional Transit (PRT)..." or "The Port Authority of Allegheny County (PAAC) D.B.A. Pittsburgh Regional Transit (PRT)..." 96.236.214.162 (talk) 14:42, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Current Finances" section

The current version of Current Finances section somehow only discussed 2007-2012---now is 2024, almost 2025, can we update it to include what happened since 2012? Otherwise that would be like we're still talking Obama years whereas now we're on the cusp of a 2nd Trump presidency... Bf0325 (talk) 03:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]