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Merge?

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was to Merge Nickvet419 (talk) 11:55, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't this be merged with Boo Blasters on Boo Hill? --Astros4477 (talk) 03:04, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it should. Do you want to perform the merge? Themeparkgc Talk 04:22, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I'll do it. Also one question, what would the correct opening dates be? They opened in 2010 but the ride itself at Kings Island was open before then.--Astros4477 (talk) 06:26, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well upon reviewing the article it contains information about dark rides at the same spot with a completely different ride systems. Based solely on the article text, it seems the "Enchanted Voyage" and "Smurf's Enchanted Voyage" were dark boat rides; the "Phantom Theater" was a standard omnimover dark ride; and the latter two being interactive dark rides.

It would be hard to merge this into the Boo Blasters article as it contains information the is way out of the scope of that article. There is also an article on Scooby-Doo! And the Haunted Mansion so even if the content was merged, it would need to be a two-way merge.

Maybe the content of the Boo Blasters section could be merged into the new Boo Blasters on Boo Hill article; the content about Scooby-Doo! and the Haunted Castle be merged into Scooby-Doo! And the Haunted Mansion with this article reverting to information first 3 rides with the name Phantom Theater. Thoughts? Themeparkgc Talk 07:15, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That would work. --Astros4477 (talk) 13:32, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Astros4477 (talk) 17:57, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Omnimover

The Omnimover system was patented by WED Enterprises. Arrow Dynamics manufactured rides based on this patent. D.H. Morgan Manufacturing was started by the son of Ed Morgan, co-founder of Arrow Dynamics. I haven't seen a reference that specifically points out that D.H. Morgan followed the same patent, but I think it's reasonable to assume that the company did. I haven't seen any evidence that the company redesigned the concept of the Omnimover from the ground up. Therefore, I don't believe there's a reason to call it "Omnimover-type" as opposed to just Omnimover. GoneIn60 (talk) 21:04, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds reasonable. I was wondering if Dana Morgan may have had the rights to build an Omnimover system. I also agree that Morgan's version does not seem to be all that different from the system used on Haunted Mansion.JlACEer (talk) 15:50, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't seen diagrams of the Phantom Theater configuration posted online, so I guess that would be hard to say for sure. Did Morgan call their version of the system something else? I wonder if they bought rights to use the patent and then modified it (if in fact Phantom Theater is all that much different from the patent). Oh well, makes for an interesting discussion anyway! GoneIn60 (talk) 19:44, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Morgan client lists and ride brochures all refer to the ride as a Dark Ride Transportation System. Although he advertised the ride system in the catalogues, it appears that this was the only one Morgan built.JlACEer (talk) 14:40, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry GoneIn60, I didn't realise this was here until now. It's interesting to say the least. Does this warrant a mention at Omnimover under the "Variations" section? Themeparkgc Talk 23:22, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem at all. I haven't been able to find any concrete information that confirms or denies any of this, so it appears to just be speculation at this point. I started this discussion to see what the consensus would be on calling Phantom Theatre an Omnimover (and "Boo Blasters" for that matter). Unless we can find a solid reference, however, it might be best to change it back to "Omnimover-style" for now. — GoneIn60 (talk) 22:13, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]