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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 June 2024
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Peter Thiell is a German citizen - no idea why this isn't mentioned. You can verify this on the other translations of this page, or googling it online. As a result of this, and his personal connection to the country, I think German-American entrepreneur would be most suitable. Maxmibsb (talk) 00:59, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
He is also a New Zealand citizen. Given he has three citizenships, it's best to mirror the consensus taken on Elon Musk, which has an FAQ on the talk page which clarifies: Musk is a US citizen (since 2002) born and raised in South Africa, and also acquired Canadian citizenship via his mother. Including these nationalities in the opening sentence in a balanced way would be complex, and the consensus is that they should instead be explained later in the lead.
So, German can certainly be incorporated into the page (e.g. in the info-box re: citizenship and page body) but it doesn't need to be referred to in the lead sentence.
Reviewing the translated archive of the interview, I fail to find an explicit statement that Thiel lost German citizenship. He says that he could not keep his German passport when he got an American one. Is this a translation issue? WeyerStudentOfAgrippa (talk) 12:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Citizenship
This has been broached occasionally in the past, but never really dealt with head-on: it doesn't make much sense for Thiel to be identified as German-American. The article doesn't even really mention Germany other than as his place of birth, and there are sources (e.g. [1]) stating that he's not a German citizen. Tserton (talk) 15:28, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
@Tserton: The wording in that source is dubious. There are other sources that clearly state he has German citizenship, for example this op-ed:
I agree that the question of whether he's a German citizen is unclear. In general, I assume billionaires can afford the types of lawyers who can get around Germany's formerly restrictive citizenship laws, but that's pure conjecture. But it's also beside the point. The articles that do mention his secondary citizenship(s) describe them as a curiosity (in the case of NZ) or when discussing his early biography in detail (in the case of Germany). His German citizenship, if he has it, isn't relevant to his notability, anymore than his New Zealand passport is. He grew up in the U.S., and his notability stems exclusively from his tech career and political activism there. Tserton (talk) 20:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 July 2024
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Change "Thiel played Dungeons & Dragons, was an avid reader of science fiction, with Isaac Asimov and Robert A. Heinlein among his favorite authors." to "Thiel played Dungeons & Dragons and was an avid reader of science fiction, with Isaac Asimov and Robert A. Heinlein among his favorite authors." Currently, the use of a comma implies that the sentence will comprise a list of 3 or more clauses, but it is instead just two connected without any conjunction. Omoutuazn (talk) 03:19, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
Thiel was born in Frankfurt am Main, West Germany, on 11 October 1967, to Klaus Friedrich Thiel and his wife Susanne Thiel.[15][16] The family emigrated to the United States when Peter was one year old….
@2600:1005:B1C9:292B:A9EB:351C:CF57:587B Did you read the previous discussion? We have a Thiel interview that says he gave up his German passport, which some editors appear to have interpreted as his losing citizenship. Other sources stating that he has citizenship are not as reliable. It's entirely possible that he has German citizenship, but we do not currently have clear consensus to state that in a BLP. One potential way forward would be explaining more clearly what sources are saying what, with attribution, but as a biographical detail it probably shouldn't take up too much of the article. WeyerStudentOfAgrippa (talk) 12:22, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 03:18, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
