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Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. The move while this discussion was open did not help. Feel free to propose another move if appropriate and refrain from moves during the discussion. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:17, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Young (Sad Café)Paul Young (Mike + The Mechanics, Sad Café) — It's true he was in Sad Café but he is more famous for being in Mike + The Mechanics, so shouldn't the title read: Paul Young (Sad Café, Mike + The Mechanics)?

This would provide better search results for people who are looking for this Paul Young and not the other Paul Young of "Wherever I lay my Hat" fame. http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Paul_Young

This is very relevant at the moment because Paul Young of Mike + The Mechanics and Sad Café although dead has a new album titled "Paul Young Chronicles" which has been produced using material recovered from the musicians home studio, and the album features members of Genesis and 10cc.

Featured famous musicians: Paul Carrack: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Paul_Carrack Mike Rutherford: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Mike_Rutherford Eric Stewart http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Eric_Stewart Graham Gouldman: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Graham_Gouldman

I hope the title can be changed as I feel this will help others who are searching for info relating to this musician and his new material. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.62.25.74 (talk) 12:49, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Above request placed on behalf of this user, following request [1] [2] - without offering any opinion on it.  Chzz  ►  18:25, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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I think it's better: "Paul Young (Mike + the Mechanics)" Juan Marley (talk) 06:38, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 May 2016

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Paul Young (singer, born 1947) as consensus has been established. (non-admin closure) Music1201 talk 01:45, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]



Paul Young (Sad Café and Mike + The Mechanics singer)Paul Young (singer, died 2000) – The previous RM decided not to add "Mike + The Mechanics". However, since then, the title went through multiple changes until the current title, which goes against the decision in the previous RM. Roman Spinner should explain the reason for not enforcing the consensus. Alternatively, I can propose other titles, like Paul Young (singer, born 1947), Paul Young (band singer), Paul Young (band singer, died 2000), or Paul Young (band singer, born 1947). Maybe, if no consensus was reached, per WP:TITLECHANGES, revert back to either Paul Young (singer and percussionist) when the article was no longer tagged as a stub or Paul Young (Mike + The Mechanics) when the article gained substantial information before another sudden title change. His solo albums were posthumous as he didn't establish his solo career in his life, like the other Paul Young, who also participated in bands before his solo career, so I wouldn't fully support just "(band singer)". George Ho (talk) 09:02, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's okay, Roman. You can fix this by telling us your position about this proposal if you please. This is George Ho actually (Talk) 00:41, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your understanding, George. Had I left well enough alone after Paul Young (Sad Café) was moved in February 2013 to Paul Young (singer born 1947), we probably wouldn't be having this discussion, since professions with birth years constitute the most frequent default qualifiers within Wikipedia's main title headers. There are legitimate qualms regarding the "born" qualifier, as expressed in 2011 by 188.62.25.74 as well as Kotniski and now, in 2016, by AjaxSmack. Because I was the one who made the most recent move, in 2013, it wouldn't be appropriate for me to vote for the retention of my own move, but if this page were to be moved, the least objectionable qualifier would probably still have to be the most commonly used one, Paul Young (singer born 1947)/Paul Young (singer, born 1947), while continuing to take into account the understandable misgivings about finding a satisfactory description. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 11:49, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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