Talk:Paul George/Archive 1

Archive 1

Picture

How do we get a better picture than this?Wrathofjames (talk) 08:45, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Order of Most Improved vs All-NBA in infobox highlights

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association#Order_of_Most_Improved_vs_All-NBA_in_infobox_highlights. —Bagumba (talk) 18:46, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Yellow Evan (talk · contribs) 13:46, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• Why is the lead so short? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 13:46, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
• What team was Paul George on in the freshman year of high school? You mention he started sophomore on JV and was he was on varsity his last 3 years, but you don't mention anything about his freshman year. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 13:46, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
• Did he play AAU ball somewhere in high school? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 13:46, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
• When did he declare eligible for the NBA draft? When was he drafted? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 13:46, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
• " For the 2011 Playoffs" link to the 2011 NBA Playoffs. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 13:46, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• Done. buffbills7701 01:42, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

• " In the Slam Dunk Contest, George completed a 360 windmill dunk in the dark and dunked over teammates Dahntay Jones and Roy Hibbert." what is a "360 windmill dunk"? The layman may not know. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 13:46, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
• Did he win the dunk contest? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 13:46, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• Nope, he didn't. Marked it accordingly. buffbills7701 01:42, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

• Did he do anything in Game 2-7 in the Heat series in 2012-13? You only mention Game 1, one in when his team lost. 13:46, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
• "The Pacers started the 2013–14 season 4–0 for the first time since the 2004–05 season.[35] " they are now 7-0, BTW. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 13:46, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
• Shouldn't there be some kind of "Personal life" and "Player profile" section. Other NBA athletes's articles (that are GA or better) tend to have this? YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 13:46, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

On hold., just missing stuff here and there. Not bad though. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 13:47, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

• It's been four weeks since the most recent edit to this page, and almost six since the hold was started. That's a bit long; if the article isn't making sufficient steps toward fixing all the issues that were identified back then, perhaps it's time to think about closing it. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:44, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Proposed move

• Paul George (basketball) → Paul George

Per WP:PTOPIC, as of right now and without a doubt in the future since he is on track to becoming an elite NBA player, this is obviously the primary topic. BV ^talk 03:22, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

New picture

I came across this edit from the pending changes queue. I've captioned it and moved it to the paragraph it illustrates, but the image is pretty low res. I'll not object if it's removed. I just figured that if it was gonna be here, it might as well be captioned and in the right place and I didn't thing my "pending changes" authority stretch far enough to reject the pic entirely. David in DC (talk) 13:16, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Paul George (basketball)

Resolved

 – Simply removed the undefined ref. Stats are easy enough to verify

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Paul George (basketball)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Reference":

• From Tracy McGrady: "Tracy McGrady NBA & ABA Stats". Basketball Reference. Retrieved 29 August 2013.
• From LeBron James: "LeBron James NBA & ABA Stats". Basketball Reference. Retrieved April 21, 2013.
• From Kobe Bryant: "Kobe Bryant NBA". Basketball Reference. Retrieved 12 October 2013.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 23:16, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Slam Dunk contest

FYI

There's a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:NBA#New_dunk_contest_format about whether to list the team award for the dunk contest in the infobox.—Bagumba (talk) 00:34, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2014

75.98.178.5 (talk) 02:01, 31 May 2014 (UTC) Paul George needs a photo of him dunking.

Not done: You will need to find a free image and upload it then open a new request to have that image added to the article. Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 02:31, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Paul George (basketball) to Paul George

I do think so that this page should be moved to Paul George only, because i think that he is the most popular person with this name, i checked it on google and search everyone of them in the disambiguation page, do you agree? -PAPAJECKLOY (hearthrob! kiss me! <3) (talk) 14:07, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Requested moves

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The result of the move request was: Move. The consensus is that this is the primary topic of the name. Cúchullain ^t/c 19:40, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

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• Paul George (basketball) → Paul George
• Paul George → Paul George (disambiguation)

– The basketball player is clearly the primary. Hoops gza (talk) 18:27, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose - on what basis should there be a primary for a common name? Search "Paul George" in Google Books doesn't suggest this Paul George is more significant to an encyclopedia than all other Paul Georges who have ever lived combined, on the contrary Google Books suggests he's a basketball player of interest to people interested in basketball. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:59, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
• Tend to support I see what in ictu oculi is saying, but in terms of usage this George is clearly primary. While I agree right now he's mostly of interest to basketball junkies, unlike say LeBron James who has transcended basketball, George's not that far behind in terms of basketball abilities or achievements, and he's much younger. The major factor, to me, is the non-notability of the other options. In my opinion, the environmentalist is barely notable if you read his page. The soccer player is young and therefore, it'll be hard to predict whether he'll make it big in his sport, but right now is not playing in one of the most prestigious leagues in the world. Timmyshin (talk) 01:42, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Google books is just one search tool available, so there is no need to be overly concerned with those results. Calidum ^{Talk To Me} 01:50, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
• Support Paul George is more popular than all of them, other options are not that notable.-PAPAJECKLOY (hearthrob! kiss me! <3) (talk) 11:50, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
• Support. The environmentalist looks like his article is a glorified Paul George (husband of Adriane Carr), and the soccer player has yet to even appear in top-flight competition. These discussions don't happen in vacuums. Red Slash 17:41, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose: "More popular" right now doesn't equate to "so overwhelmingly more notable than all others by the same name that he is clearly the primary topic for this name". WP is not governed by fannish cheerleading (e.g. personal estimation of his basketball abilities, which has no bearing on an RM discussion). The fact that Google Books isn't the only possible analysis to perform doesn't mean it's not relevant, and so far it's the only analysis that's actually been presented, so it's winning by default against all this WP:ILIKEIT/WP:IKNOWIT/WP:POPULARITY.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  09:36, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Okay, WP:PRIMARYTOPIC says to look at pageviews. 229,519 for basketball, 28 for the environmentalist and 4831 for the soccer player. No one else has an article. Isn't a ratio of well over 40:1 enough? Red Slash 16:50, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

• The concencus has reached, the nomination is seven days old, so i think this request should be closed and to be moved. -PAPAJECKLOY (hearthrob! kiss me! <3) (talk) 10:18, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

• Comment I'm actually OK with either leaving "Paul George" as a disam. page or making it the primary topic, but I have to say Google Books is a poor measure of notability. Paul George the basketball player probably shows up less there because he's 24 years old. He's more in the news than on library shelves. It does seem like of the three options he's the most notable. But carry on. Rikster2 (talk) 12:05, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
• Support per PRIMARYTOPIC. Thanks to the pageview stats provided by Red Slash, it's apparent that 97.9% of Wikipedia readers looking for information on a Paul George are looking for information on this Paul George. 97.9 percent! That's a very strong usage claim. Neither of the other options suggest any long-term significance issues. The soccer player has appeared in one match for a team that plays in the top level of a league that UEFA currently ranks as the 24th best in Europe. The environmentalist's article looks more suitable for discussion at AfD than RM. The horticulturalist is a red link. This is not a difficult decision to make. Egsan Bacon (talk) 05:34, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

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Paul George trade

He is now a member of the Oklahoma City Thunder and was traded on June 30th, 2017 Gabenewland (talk) 20:17, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Trade

As of July 6, 2017, Paul George has been officially traded to the Oklahoma City Thunder in exchange for Victor Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis. Please make this change as this page will not include relevant information if not changed immediately Tm266 (talk) 17:34, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

@Tm266: It has been done. DaHuzyBru (talk) 18:33, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 4 July 2017

Paul George should be on the Thunder. Trade's official. KoopaKoopaSwag (talk) 14:30, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Done Per section below. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 18:52, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2018

Paul George has made the 2018 NBA All-Star team as an injury replacement for DeMarcus Cousins (Source: Shams Charania - Yahoo Sports NBA). Jkang1995 (talk) 01:16, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm seeing Tweets about it. Do we have a full-fledged news article yet? Anything directly from the NBA? —C.Fred (talk) 01:20, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

 Done NBA.com release went out at 01:11 UTC.[1] —C.Fred (talk) 01:25, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2018

Under the "Oklahoma City Thunder (2017–present)" heading, 2 lines down, "George's" is spelled "Geroge's." LividPhil (talk) 16:35, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 17:43, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2019

Paul George's full name is not Paul Cliftonantho George as seen on the page.

It is Paul Clifton Anthony George Willytena93 (talk) 19:52, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 21:14, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

paul george clippers trade

the trade has been official. Oklahoma City Thunder traded star Paul George to the Los Angles Clippers and received Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Danilo Gallinari, and Five first round picks (four of which are protected and two pick swaps) NoahBlaylock (talk) 02:47, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

The trade has not been official no word from the Clippers or the Thunder about this trade... Blackhawksfan1445 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:18, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Trade to the Los Angeles Clippers

After 2018-2019 Finals MVP Kawhi Leonard signed with the Clippers, George requested a trade from the OKC Thunder, which was then accepted. In the trade, the Thunder received point guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, small forward Danilo Gallinari, the Miami Heat's 2021 first round pick (Owned by the Clippers), the Clippers 2022, 2024, and 2026 first round picks all unprotected, a lottery protected 2023 pick, and 2023 and 2025 pick swaps. The Clippers on the other hand, only received George. --2kKainDark (talk) 09:16, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

@2kKainDark: The trade is based off of anonymous sources. Please wait until the trade is completed and a team or league source announces it on the record. You can refer to WP:SPORTSTRANS for more details. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 09:56, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

--Why is there absolutely nothing in the profile regarding this trade, though? Couldn't there be a simple sentence in his bio that says something like, "According to numerous sources, Paul George has been traded to the Los Angeles Clippers"? These aren't just rumors -- this trade is likely happening and no mention of it at all is needlessly protective. --Lasalleexplorer (talk) 19:48, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

@Lasalleexplorer: Most editors just do the simple infobox and lead changes, and not the slightly more complex prose with citiation. Be bold and do it.—Bagumba (talk) 20:10, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

References

Personal life section

Someone should add a “personal life” section here. LegalTech (talk) 03:24, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Agreed: https://nypost.com/2020/08/09/damian-lillards-sister-paul-georges-girlfriend-engaged-in-instagram-feud/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CI%20said%20earlier%20I%20was,got%20a%20h%2De%20stripper%20pregnant.%E2%80%9D https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30614082/the-brief-history-damian-lillard-paul-george-rivalry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.250.194.202 (talk) 19:37, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Basketball

Paul George has played for multiple teams in his career 75.162.107.244 (talk) 13:31, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2023

Paul George actually led the league in minutes along with Bradley Beal in the 2018-19 season. Should have an * with the background blue. Breadmachines (talk) 23:40, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 14:10, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Slam dunk contest champ

He won the dunk contest along with Terrance Ross and John wall and it’s not on here 96.125.228.150 (talk) 16:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 14:31, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

@GhostRiver are you able to complete this review? -- asilvering (talk) 17:04, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi Asilvering. Sorry. I don't think so. Lots of personal upheaval in my life. Bit off more than I could chew. — GhostRiver 18:27, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

@GhostRiver Sorry to hear it! I'll put it up for a second opinion. -- asilvering (talk) 20:10, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello! My name is GhostRiver, and I'll be conducting this GA review. I will assess the article against the good article criteria. Once I complete my review, you will have seven days to implement the suggested edits.

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Personal life

• As mentioned below, Sportskeeda is not a reliable source. Please just use the People magazine reference to talk about his wife
• Rather than the link to the Apple Podcasts page, I'd use a third-party source (like this Athletic article to discuss his podcast
• Link Nike to Nike, Inc.
• George signed with Nike in his rookie season and had his first signature shoe debut in 2017 with the line ending in 2022. In January 2024, George stated the Nike would retro release his earlier models in the future. → George signed with Nike as a rookie and had a signature footwear and apparel line from 2017 to 2022. In 2024, George announced that Nike would re-release his earlier sneaker models.

Removed unreliable source and included the athletic article about his podcast. Hyperlinked Nike and fixed sentence cohesion about his shoeline. Thanks for the feedback! - fiveXdollars

References

• The link to George's NBA.com profile is broken, please use this one
• The reference formatting is a mess and needs to be standardized. For instance, ESPN references are at times listed as "ESPN," ESPN.com", and "espn.go.com"
• Many references are incomplete, including a stretch from 64 to 72.
• Per MOS:ALLCAPS, any references listed in all caps should be changed to title case
• SBNation and Sportskeeda are not reliable sources. Neither are Twitter or Bleacher Report.
• You absolutely cannot use a caption from a Wikimedia Commons article as a source.

Links are standardized, live/archived and no longer incomplete. Unreliable sources have been replaced. Confused about ALLCAPS, can you provide an example of a title that needs to be changed? Thanks in advanced! - fiveXdollars

Other comments

• As failed GAN is over ten years old, I will not be measuring this one against that one
• Earwig copyvio score looks good, mostly picking up proper nouns
• No major stability concerns, only general updates
• Photos are properly licensed and relevant to the article