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What facts pertain to PG&E the company vs the corporation vs both is unclear

The title of this page is "Pacific Gas and Electric Company" but the sidebar info is for "PG&E Corporation". There is no page dedicated to "PG&E Corporation". Compare this with another IOU "Southern California Edison" which clearly states it is a subsidiary of "Edison International". The page abbreviates "Pacific Gas and Electric Company" as PG&E leading the reader to assume that every fact about PG&E relates to "Pacific Gas and Electric Company" not "PG&E Corporation".

For example: "In December 2011, the non-partisan organization Public Campaign criticized PG&E for spending $79 million on lobbying and not paying any taxes ..." is referring to PG&E Corporation not "Pacific Gas and Electric Company".

I came here after hearing about the $50M bonus for the CEO of PG&E Corporation. Recalling the regulated utility was a subsidiary of the Corp and I wanted to know more about those details. I.e. does the utility own the transmission lines or the corp?

I would like to suggest using the terminology from the latest bankruptcy (https://restructuring.ra.kroll.com/pge/). Referring to the entities as either PG&E Corporation ("PG&E Corp."), Pacific Gas and Electric Company (the "Utility"; or together with PG&E Corp. as "PG&E"). Depending on what the facts or narrative applies to. Pastel Abyss (talk) 04:12, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I did some searching, and I have not found any sources distinguishing between the Corporation (holding company) and the Company. It is possible that the only subsidiary of the Corporation is the Company, and that it is a holding company as a sort of legal shield for shareholders, or other legal distinction. I haven't found any sources that talk about what other entities the Corporation owns OTHER than the Company. And this status may have changed over the years. We need a recent (post 2020 bankruptcy) source which outlines these differences, but I haven't been able to find one. ---Avatar317 ^(talk) 23:48, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

pipeline map

what sources of information are available to the person who would try to produce a good-enough approximation of the (presumably) proprietary actual pipeline map of PG&E? diameter of pipe, when built, who built the tubes, specs of compressors and so on?

came here to learn about it, but no luck. Nowakki (talk) 22:56, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Public Safety Power Shutdowns

A question for Wikipedia editors interested in this topic (PSPS) or wildfires in general. As I was reading about this particular fire-prevention strategy, I wondered where else it had been implemented besides California and Hawaii. It's an active anti-fire utility strategy in (as far as I can tell) in at least 11 states: Hawaii, California, Oregon, Idaho, Washington, Colorado, New Mexico, Montana, Arizona, Texas, and Nebraska. Is this a notable enough topic for its own article? What do you think? Benetsee (talk) 16:38, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. We already have an article on ONE series of these: 2019 California power shutoffs. It would be interesting to know how often they occur, and in what states, and how many fires they are claimed to have prevented, and more! Thanks! ---Avatar317 ^(talk) 23:45, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]