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PSA (song) has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: October 15, 2024. (Reviewed version).

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https://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/57968/1/rick-braukis-is-the-firestarter-cooking-up-chemical-fx-for-sza

A fact from PSA (song) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 February 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that SZA said her label insisted on scrapping a song from her second album, even though they had used it to promote the album?

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Album parameter in infobox

The infobox used to read "from the album Lana" with a caveat for the 5 Jan release date that it was only for the website-exclusive edition. It has since been changed to remove that caveat, which implies that is the main release date. The infobox now reads "from the album SOS and Lana" as well.

So SZA as we know is very confusing when it comes to releasing songs/singles/albums/etc. With that, we should discuss what we ought to put in the album parameter for the infobox - SOS or Lana?

On one hand, "PSA" was used in promotion of SOS, although it's unclear if it was a promotional single in the by-the-books sense since all this song got is a YouTube-exclusive teaser, though the teaser version was included in a website-exclusive edition. On the other hand...that version is abridged, and the entire version of "PSA" is meant for Lana after it was scrapped from the album.

Pinging @Flabshoe1 who made the date change to the infobox, as well as other people who have edited articles related to this one @Gained @Karatment ‍ Elias 🪐 (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 09:00, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

From what I remember, I only added a short description to the article simply because the auto generated one was "0000 song by SZA", which was obviously confusing. I was completely unaware for the change it might have brought to this article and I apologize if I did something wrong @Your Power. Gained (talk) 10:13, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the website-exclusive release is still a release and should be considered its release date as such. The article text can explain the details of its release. Now I also think the associated album should just be referred to as Lana, because that encompasses SOS too - Lana is a reissue of SOS.Flabshoe1 (talk) 14:17, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Flabshoe1: again, I am hesitant with including the TDE-exclusive release date as the main release date. If we use only Lana for the album parameter, then it makes no sense to make January 5, 2023, the sole release date in the infobox (or at least the main one). It implies that Lana was released on 2023 (we follow the logic that non-singles are released the same date as the album), which is patently false. One could also make the argument that the release date on the infobox should be for the most relevant version of the song: the TDE-exclusive version of "PSA" received relatively little coverage in RS compared to the amount of RS discussing the inclusion of "PSA" in Lana. ‍ Elias 🪐 (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 14:44, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the concern with implying Lana was released in 2023. In this case, the header could be "from the album Lana" and a footnote could be added to the release date explaining that it was released for the website-exclusive edition of SOS before being released to streaming in Lana. Flabshoe1 (talk) 14:48, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. dxneo (talk) 06:04, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:PSA (song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: PSA (talk · contribs) 00:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Dxneo (talk · contribs) 01:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello PSA, I'll be reviewing this article. Please consider reviewing "Truth or Dare". dxneo (talk) 01:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Background

SZA's 2017 studio album, Ctrl, was met with widespread critical acclaim upon its release. Credited with bringing her mainstream fame, Ctrl has been described by many critics as making her a prominent figure in contemporary pop and R&B music and pushing the boundaries of the R&B genre.[note 1] Even so, she grew discontented with being classified as an R&B musician, and she felt like her music was being reductively categorized into the genre because she was a Black woman.[8] — how is this relevant to the subject? dxneo (talk) 01:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the article later states that SZA wanted to show that she was a versatile artist who can make music beyond R&B, so it feels natural to open the article by saying why this vision of her as just an R&B artist is so steeped within popular culture (e.g. by saying Ctrl was an R&B classic)

After the album's release, media began speculating on when her next one, SOS, would arrive. — after which album? dxneo (talk) 01:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Up until the phrase "after the album's release" only Ctrl has been mentioned, so there is no need to rewrite for clarity

I also don't understand the relation of the second paragraph to this article, but I'll spare it as it is some kind of a build up. dxneo (talk) 01:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Music and lyrics

Release

which would consist of at least seven songs that were either new music or SOS outtakes. — reads like it was written by a "fan". Can you tweak it a bit? dxneo (talk) 01:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but how does this read like it was written by a fan (also, why the quotation marks)? I mean, sure, a SZA fan editing Wikipedia articles about her is expected, but the neutrality seems to be the thing you're observing here, and I do not see how it's non-neutral.

SOS debuted atop the US Billboard 200 chart, SZA's first to do so, keeping Taylor Swift's Midnights (2022) off the top and spending ten weeks at number one.[34][35] The tracking week ending January 6, 2023, marked SOS's fourth week at number one, and there was a possibility that Midnights might overtake the album for the fifth week.[36] — why is the album composition squeezed in here? I get that it's a build up, but this is diving way too into the Swift & SZA albums. Can it be trimmed a bit? dxneo (talk) 01:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did my best

Live performances

When she headlined Glastonbury in June 30, 2024,} ===> When she headlined Glastonbury on June 30,2024. dxneo (talk) 01:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good catch!

Original search

I don't see any credit or personnel. Any reason for that? dxneo (talk) 01:30, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the infobox, I see you've listed producers and songwriters. Where did you obtain that information as I did not find it referenced anywhere in the body of the article. dxneo (talk) 01:30, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let me address both: as of today, people can get "PSA" only by either watching the trailer on YouTube or buying a download from TDE's website. The credits aren't there on YouTube, meaning the only way to get them is by looking at the metadata from the audio file downloaded from TDE. The problem is that the metadata can accomodate only the performers, songwriters, and producers, meaning a "credits" section would be very short and redundant. Plus, there isn't exactly a citation template for audio metadata, so I justified this to myself by saying that since the source is assumed to be the subject itself, a citation was not necessary. Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 ^{[please make some noise]} 04:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Copyright vio

Overall

Nice and short, maybe too short considering that it needs to be trimmed to stay focused on the subject. Otherwise, I enjoyed it. dxneo (talk) 01:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Dxneo, and thank you for this review! I apologize that this took me beyond the seven-day window. Allow me to address the comments within 24 hours. Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 ^{[please make some noise]} 04:04, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All of your comments have received responses. If there are any more concerns, please say so. Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 ^{[please make some noise]} 04:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I'm ready to pass this. Ugh, I'll just leave icons like that, too lazy to tweak them. dxneo (talk) 06:03, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.