Talk:Oscar Bernadotte

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Ouch, how this needed to be edited. "Grefve" and "grefvinna" are inadequate vintage spellings of the titles, and titled nobility in Sweden have the titles before the full name, not between the first and last names. It´s also "friherre", not "friherr". I guess this had been very much mixed up with how nobility are styled in Germany. Pemer (talk) 06:43, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

Count Oscar Bernadotte of Wisborg → Oscar, Prince Bernadotte — His more notable title was Prince Bernadotte and thus this article's heading should have the same name format as his nephew Carl, Prince Bernadotte. He never used the lower title and was never called Count. His wife was never called Countess - they were Prince and Princess Carl and Ebba Bernadotte. SergeWoodzing (talk) 00:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This was uncontested for over 10 days so I moved it myself. SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Removed genealogy

This huge piece of genealogical material was part of the article:

"His wife was the daughter of Carl Jacob Munck af Fulkila and wife baroness Henrika Ulrika Antoinetta Cederström, paternal granddaughter of Carl Johan Munck af Fulkila and wife Lovisa Albertina De Pont, great-granddaughter of Carl Fredrik Munck af Fulkila and wife Brita Magdalena Stubbe, great-great-granddaughter of Mårten Munck af Fulkila and wife Katarina Ritz and great-great-great-granddaughter of Claes Munck af Fulkila and wife Helena Margareta Hästesko-Fortuna, he the great-uncle of Count Adolf Fredrik Munck af Fulkila.^[1]

Descendants

Oscar and Ebba had five children:

Countess Maria Sophia Henrietta Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. Karlskrona, 28 February 1889 – Stockholm, 19 June 1974), unmarried and without issue
Count Carl Oscar Bernadotte af Wisborg (Karlskrona, 27 May 1890 – Malmö, 23 April 1977), married firstly in Stockholm on 15 March 1915 and divorced in 1935 baroness Marianne de Geer af Leufsta (Frötuna, Uppsala, 6 October 1893 – 31 August 1978), and had four children, and married secondly at Grödinge on 20 April 1937 miss Gerty Börjesson (Södertälje, 30 October 1910 – Jönköping, 10 November 2004), and had one son:
- Countess Dagmar Ebba Märtha Marianne Bernadotte af Wisborg (Stockholm, b. 10 April 1916), married at Frötuna on 16 October 1936 Nils Magnus von Arbin (Störkinge, 17 August 1910 – Tangestad, 4 March 1985), and had five daughters:
  - Elsa Ebba Marianne von Arbin (Stockholm, 2 August 1937 – Stockholm, 25 May 2006), married in Stockholm on 5 September 1958 and divorced in 1967 Miles Carl Flach (Stockholm, b. 10 August 1934), and had one daughter:
    - Jana Camilla Gabriella Flach (b. Stockholm, 22 December 1960), married in Stockholm on 16 June 1990 Steven Wearing (b. London, 2 May 1957), and had two children:
      - Fredrik Bruce Mille Wearing (b. Stockholm, 3 January 1991)
      - Maxime Wearing (b. Stockholm, 16 March 1993)
  - Dagmar Marthe Lovisa von Arbin (b. Stockholm, 24 May 1940), married firstly at Kimstad in 1961 and divorced in 1968 Per-Erik Bergström (b. Stockholm, 22 August 1936), and had two children, and married secondly at Danderyd on 13 September 1980 Gustaf Mårtensson (b. Djursholm, 10 November 1938), without issue:
    - Therese Marianne Bergström (b. Stockholm, 10 September 1963), married in Stockholm on 25 August 1990 Peter Aspelund (b. Ljusdal, 13 August 1958), and had two sons:
      - Oscar Peter Aspelund (b. Danderyd, 20 November 1991)
      - Marcus Aspelund (b. Danderyd, 9 August 1996)
    - Dick Michael Bergström (b. Stockholm, 1965), unmarried and without issue
  - Eva Vibeke Cathrine von Arbin (b. Stockholm, 26 June 1946), married firstly on 19 September 1970 Per Johan Gösta Ryding (b. Bern, 5 April 1943), and had three children, and married secondly at Danderyd on 29 December 1989 Olle Ljungberg (b. Lidingö, 7 December 1946), and had one son:
    - Nils Gustaf Johan Ryding (b. Stockholm, 12 August 1971)
    - Ebba Charlotte Ryding (b. Stockholm, 17 March 1974)
    - Carl Göran Magnus Ryding (b. Danderyd, 6 September 1978)
    - Victor von Arbin Ljungberg (b. Danderyd, 17 November 1988)
  - Lise-Lotte Jeanette von Arbin (b. Norrköping, 19 May 1951), married in Stockholm on 18 September 1976 Esben Colfach (b. Copenhagen, 5 November 1947), and had three sons:
    - Nils Fredrik Colfach (b. Stockholm, 20 December 1978)
    - Peder Oscar Esben Colfach (b. Stockholm, 28 May 1981)
    - Christian Magnus Peder Colfach (b. Stockholm, 2 March 1983)
  - Susanne Maud Madeleine von Arbin (b. Linköping, 27 January 1955), married at Ösmo on 22 August 1981 or in Stockholm in 1982 baron Gerhard de Geer af Finspång (b. Stockholm, 3 December 1954), and had three children:
    - friherrinna Jana Adrienne de Geer af Finspång (b. Stockholm, 11 April 1983)
    - friherrinna Adrienne Ebba Sophie de Geer af Finspång (b. Stockholm, 6 November 1984)
    - friherre Louis Nicolaus Gerhard de Geer af Finspång (b. Stockholm, 27 February 1988)
- Count Nils Carl Oscar Bernadotte af Wisborg (Stockholm, 9 February 1918 – Stockholm, 21 April 1920)
- Count Oscar Carl Emanuel Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. Stockholm, 12 July 1921), married firstly at Björnstorp on 18 March 1944 and divorced in 1950 friherrinna Ebba-Anna Gyllenkrok (b. Stockholm, 26 July 1918), daughter of friherre Nils Gyllenkrok and wife Countess Charlotte Wachtmeister af Johannishus, and had one daughter, and married secondly in New York City, New York, on 18 October 1950 Gertrud Ollen (Stockholm, 10 May 1916 – Frötuna, 18 February 1999), and had three children:
  - Countess Ebba Marianne Charlotte Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. Stockholm, 2 March 1945), married firstly at Rasbo, Uppsala, on 14 March 1970 and divorced in 2002 Pontus Reutersvärd (b. Kristianstad, 28 May 1943), and had two children, and married secondly at Bergsjöholm on 23 June 2005 Lars Ahlström (b. Solna, 13 April 1943), without issue:
    - Gustaf Oscar Pontus Reutersvärd (b. Sydney, New South Wales, 26 August 1971)
    - Anna Ebba Reutersvärd (b. Sydney, New South Wales, 27 May 1973), married on 28 December 2002 James "Jim" Marshall
  - Countess Kristina Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. Stockholm, 21 December 1951), married firstly at Rasbo on 18 June 1977 and divorced friherre Peder Langenskiöld (b. 13 March 1950), without issue, and married secondly in Paris on 31 March 1982 Lars Hedström (b. Göteborg, 21 August 1947), and had two sons:
    - Lars Anders Hedström (b. Neuilly, 1 July 1982)
    - Johan Mats Hedström (b. Neuilly, 28 January 1986)
  - Countess Birgitta Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. Witullsberg, 21 December 1953), married firstly at Rasbo on 31 May 1980 and divorced in 1990 Richard van Helleputte (b. Montreuil-sous-Bois, 5 February 1955), and had two sons, and married secondly in 1992 Gunnar Sundquist (b. 1951), without issue:
    - Charles Oscar van Helleputte (b. Neuilly-sur-Seine, 4 March 1982)
    - Jan Michel Nicolas van Helleputte (b. Neuilly-sur-Seine, 10 October 1986)
  - Count Carl Ludvig Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. Witullsberg, 1 June 1955), married in Stockholm on 23 May 1981 Charlotte Urban (b. Stockholm, 24 December 1954), and had three daughters:
    - Countess Josephine Eva Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. Stockholm, 5 January 1984)
    - Countess Fredrika Jessica Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. Stockholm, 8 August 1985)
    - Countess Elsa Marianne Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. Stockholm, 22 November 1988)
- Countess Märtha Elsa Catharina Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. Stockholm, 14 April 1926), married at Ösmo in 1948 and divorced in 1968 Tore Henrik Nilert (Stockholm, 9 February 1915 – 21 October 1997), and had four children:
  - Jan Carl Henrik Svante Nilert (b. New York City, New York, 11 March 1950), married at Överjärna on 22 November 1980 Pia Lindholm Bengtsson (b. Malmö, 14 May 1951), and had two daughters:
    - Anna-Tuva Johanna Nilert (b. Kyrkhult, 17 November 1978)
    - Ida-Maia Gottlinda Nilert (b. Överjärna, 23 May 1981)
  - Charlotte Catherine Nilert (b. New York City, New York, 20 May 1952), married on 26 November 1983 and divorced in 1992 Lars Linder-Aronson (b. Sollefteå, 7 October 1953), without issue, and had a bastard daughter by an unknown father:
    - Vendela Pernilla Nilert (b. 1 June 1995)
  - Anne Marie Nilert (b. New York City, New York, 1 March 1954), unmarried and without issue
  - Fredrik Tore Nilert (b. New York City, New York, 10 February 1959), married in New York City, New York, on 27 May 1989 Anita Alvin (b. New York City, New York, 27 March 1960), and had two children:
    - Nicholas Alvin Nilert (b. Stockholm, 2 July 1991)
    - Elsa Daniela Elenore Nilert (b. 10 October 1993)
- Count Claes Oscar Carl Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. Frötuna, 17 July 1942), married at Lund on 22 November 1969 Birgitta Magnusson (b. 30 May 1943), and had two children:
  - Count Carl Johan Edward Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. Stockholm, 7 December 1970), married at Strängnäs on 9 June 2001 Anna Olsson (b. Uppsala, 10 January 1971), and had three children:
    - Count Carl Wilhelm Olof Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. Stockholm, 26 April 2002)
    - Count Wilhelm Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. Eskilstuna, 14 August 2004)
    - Countess Sophia Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. 6 May 2006)
  - Countess Lovisa Maria Ingrid Bernadotte af Wisborg (b. Viresjo, 29 November 1973), married at Almesåkra Kyrka, Småland, on 14 August 2004 Heinz Assmann (b. 21 May 1962), and had one daughter:
    - Estelle Assmann (b. Vienna, 28 April 2006)
Countess Ebba Sophia Bernadotte af Wisborg (Karlskrona, 17 May 1892 – Stockholm, 21 June 1936), married in Stockholm on 14 May 1918 baron Carl Fleetwood (Göteborg, 19 September 1885 – Strängnäs, 19 January 1966), without issue
Countess Elsa Victoria "Tess" Bernadotte af Wisborg (Stockholm, 3 August 1893 – Stockholm, 17 July 1996), married at Grödinge on 18 September 1929 Carl Axel Cedergren (Gävle, 26 July 1891 – Stockholm, 10 July 1971), without issue
Count Folke Bernadotte af Wisborg (1895–1948)"

^ http://www.wargs.com/royal/munck.html The Ancestry of Count Adolf Fredrik Munck (1749–1831)

I removed almost all of it today as irrelevant to this biography as per WP standards. SergeWoodzing (talk) 01:26, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 26 August 2023

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Adumbrativus (talk) 04:20, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Oscar Bernadotte → Oscar Bernadotte – Per WP:CONSISTENT and WP:COMMONNAME. On the first point, the other two princes of Sweden who married morganatically (Sigvard and Carl Johan Bernadotte) do not use the prefix "Prince". The three also shared the same two titles (Prince Bernadotte and Count of Wisborg) in the same country (technically, Luxembourg). In terms of COMMONNAME, "Oscar Bernadotte" is slightly preferred to "Prince Oscar Bernadotte" as demonstrated by ngrams [1]. estar8806 (talk) ★ 04:00, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Tomas e (talk) 10:16, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - titles do not belong in any article names. A third example is Lennart Bernadotte, and Prince Carl Bernadotte (same situation) should also be moved. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 14:13, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] ttp://www.wargs.com/royal/munck.html The Ancestry of Count Adolf Fredrik Munck (1749–1831)

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