Talk:Orphan wells in Alberta, Canada

Environmental issues in Alberta

Content from this article has also been used in Environmental issues in Alberta by permission of the editor who wrote this article.Oceanflynn (talk) 14:31, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Ecojustice

I have used the same c. 3 sentences I wrote in this article, in the article Ecojustice in the section on Orphan wells.Oceanflynn (talk) 03:02, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Request for a redirect

> Could someone add the Orphan wells in Alberta as a redirect to this this article please. It now shows as a redlink in the table created by Western University grad students who worked to improve this article in 2018: Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Western University/Responsible Development of Low-Permeability Hydrocarbon Resources (Winter 2018) Thank you.Oceanflynn (talk) 18:37, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

You have 50k edits, so please do not this as patronising but you should know how to create a redirect. If you don't want to change the redlink at the WikiEd page, make it yourself?

Or, are you saying that you copied from Milimcalgary's sandbox and never gave them credit and would like to do so? Primefac (talk) 19:21, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi User:Primefac I was confused by the unfounded allegation that you made in your in your role as Oversighter, that I had used content in this article without crediting the contributions made by graduate students in their jointly-written sandbox page created for their 2018 Winter term graduate level course on hydrocarbons.

I understand your concern to ensure that all users are credited for their contributions to articles. However, the only edits taken from the students' sandbox article that were added to this article Orphan wells in Alberta, Canada, were added by one of the students himself in a series of good faith edits made on 8 March 2019. Perhaps because he was not aware of protocol, in his edit summaries visible on the history page of this article he did not mention his involvement with the group or where the content came from.

To clarify my point and my concern, I have not personally used any of the content or references from the students' sandbox article in my contributions—either in my original sandbox article or this main space article—as you imply here.

As a volunteer editor, a good reputation is very important to earn and protect.Oceanflynn (talk) 22:36, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

This request, and its reply, have nothing to do with me being an OSer. You asked a question using {{help me}}, and I responded as an editor who responds to these sorts of requests. It was also not an allegation, I simply could not figure out why someone with your tenure would need to ask someone else to create a redirect, and so my only logical conclusion was that I was potentially misreading the question and you were actually asking for a history merge. Clearly that is not case, as you have clarified. Primefac (talk) 06:35, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Western University's graduate student's Orphan Well Group's sandbox article

The creation of a sandbox article by Western University graduate students for their Winter 2018 graduate course, from January to April—Responsible Development of Low-Permeability Hydrocarbon Resources was an excellent initiative on the part of Western University. There were six teams of graduate students, working with a Wikipedia expert, who created or improved Wikipedia articles. One of the six groups was the Orphan Well Group. One student editor User:Milimcalgary created the sandbox article on 25 January 2018. By 20 April—when the winter term ended— User:Milimcalgary, along with two other grad students, Mush105 and Damabero, had written a lengthy, technical article with 7 sections citing 33 reliable sources. The article reflected the academic nature of their assignment. Their completed project was temporarily created in the main Wikipedia space as Orphan Wells in Alberta but it was moved 19 April 2018 to Draft:Orphan wells in Alberta as it was "not ready for main article space yet" as it contained lots of WP:OR, etc.Oceanflynn (talk) 22:36, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Length of lead section

Hi Hi User:Chidgk1. The lead section has been shortened as you rightfully suggested in the maintenance template. Can we remove the template? Thank you.Oceanflynn (talk) 20:51, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for trimming. I think it could be condensed a bit more - if I remember right the advice is for a lead to be about 4 paragraphs - see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section Chidgk1 (talk) 05:42, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

For example you have listed 8 major issues in the lead - perhaps they could be trimmed to the most important ones Chidgk1 (talk) 10:58, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Also perhaps some of the numbers in the lead could be removed - for example it is a bit confusing mentioning 10,000 seven thousand and 170,000 Chidgk1 (talk) 11:00, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks User:Chidgk1. I will work on that. Re the sfnref errors in inline citations that I make from time to time, they are usually short-lived :) Oceanflynn (talk) 19:18, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi User:Chidgk1. I have trimmed the lead down quite a bit. I am still working on the rest of the article which I know is too detailed. This will take awhile. Shall I remove the template or will you? Thanks for the feedback.Oceanflynn (talk) 02:48, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

removed thanks Chidgk1 (talk) 14:41, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

I put it back in because unfortunately the lead has got too long again - for example I doubt numbers from the 1980s should be in the lead Chidgk1 (talk) 14:45, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Harv ref errors

Not sure why there are harv ref errors but there is a tool you can install to see them User:Trappist the monk/HarvErrors Chidgk1 (talk) 11:15, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Some were mis-spelling of sources, one was a stray curly brace, and one was weird – probably some sort of strange non-breaking space since all I did to fix it was remove all the spaces around the template parameters and add them back in again... All fixed now, though. Wham2001 (talk) 20:52, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

The tool is now showing 3 errors but perhaps they are new since you last fixed Chidgk1 (talk) 13:36, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I think so – there have been quite a few edits in the meantime! I've fixed those three (it was fairly clear which source was meant in each case). Best, Wham2001 (talk) 18:12, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

@Oceanflynn:, in this edit you added a second Webber (2023) source, which created a bunch of harv/sfn multiple-target errors. I have edited the references section to turn the two sources into Weber (2023a) and Weber (2023b); could you go through the article and change all the Webber (2023) sfns to point to the correct source? Thanks, Wham2001 (talk) 20:05, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Images

Two images in this article were created by then student editor User:Tiago Morais as part of the Winter 2018 course, Responsible Development of Low-Permeability Hydrocarbon Resources.Oceanflynn (talk) 18:35, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Don’t know if @Tiago Morais wrote the caption for the lead image but I think it could do with being shortened a bit Chidgk1 (talk) 13:38, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks User:Chidgk1, I appreciate your input. I removed some of the text from the caption.Oceanflynn (talk) 17:03, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

I don’t think the article should be lengthened

Maybe it is even too long already Chidgk1 (talk) 14:49, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi User:Chidgk1. Thanks for monitoring this article. I will work on shortening it and I value your contributions. There are many angles to this timely and interesting topic.Oceanflynn (talk) 18:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Selected timeline related to orphan wells in Alberta

I created the article Selected timeline related to orphan wells in Alberta as a fork from this article. It was first developed in a sandbox article by the same editor. I will temporarily remove content from the section "Quantifying orphaned and abandoned wells" Oceanflynn (talk) 20:21, 9 March 2023 (UTC)