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Confusion about de-grading

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Can a recipient who has been conferred with a higher grade (Commander) be again conferred with a lower grade (Chevalier) order? This is the query at the reference desk. Jay (talk) 07:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 16 October 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. Evenly divided, with contradictory claims about what the English-language common name is. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:19, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]



Ordre des Arts et des LettresOrder of Arts and Letters – Per WP:CRITERIA; the Order is more commonly referred to as "Order of Arts and Letters" in English-language sources. Zoolver (talk) 23:10, 12 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Zoolver (talk) 02:22, 16 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 02:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some references from the past 10 years:

Support - as this is English language Wikipedia. GoodDay (talk) 03:16, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose, the French title is also often used in English and overwhelmingly the COMMONNAME, so I'd rather keep it there despite UE.--Ortizesp (talk) 13:01, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. The French title is the overwhelmingly common name. We do not translate everything into English just because "this is English language Wikipedia". -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:57, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: This list article for this subject is at List of members of the Order of Arts and Letters. I have no preference as to outcome myself, but it might be best if both articles used the same org name. BusterD (talk) 12:14, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Nom moved the list right before they made the technical move request. Note to closer: if this RM is closed as not moved or no consensus, the list should be moved back. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 18:45, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment: Please cite your support/oppose with verifiable stats. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 02:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.