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On 22 October 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Policy paper: Options for a policy regarding Gaza's civilian population to Options for a policy regarding Gaza's civilian population. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Content Option B "most dangerous alternative"
[edit]The Article says:
The paper states this alternative is the "most dangerous alternative" because it could "lead to the establishment of a Palestinian state," or new leadership more radical than Hamas.
I'm not sure if this is correct or if I'm missing a point. I've found a translated version of the document here: https://www.scribd.com/document/681086738/Israeli-Intelligence-Ministry-Policy-Paper-on-Gaza-s-Civilian-Population-October-2023
In the translated document in the executive summary on point 6.c. on page 3 it says:
Option A is the option with the most risks; the division between the Palestinian population in Judea and Samaria (West Bank) and Gaza is one of the central obstacles preventing the establishment of a Palestinian state."
Thus the option A is the one with the most risks, because of the same reason.
(I'm not sure if my comment belongs here, because it's one of my first edits to wikipedia) Philipsjps (talk) 10:46, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Philipsjps: Thanks for mentioning, I have changed the text to say that it is the "option with the most risks" (+972 Magazine may have its own point of view, but its translation ought to be more reliable than user contributions on Wikipedia). I deleted the part about a more radical leadership than Hamas it doesn't seem to be backed by the source, although I will admit I have skim-read it now. GnocchiFan (talk) 12:15, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- It's still on option B and not option A. Philipsjps (talk) 17:08, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- My apologies, I should learn to read properly. I've changed that now. Thanks for your help! GnocchiFan (talk) 17:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- It's still on option B and not option A. Philipsjps (talk) 17:08, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- No editor should be looking at the paper directly and characterizing or interpreting it per WP:NOR. The language in the article,
The paper states this alternative is the "most dangerous alternative" because it could "lead to the establishment of a Palestinian state," or new leadership more radical than Hamas.
is taken from the cited source (which is not the paper, or 972). Did nobody notice the footnote? No objection to changing "dangerous" to "riskiest" but I think the "because" part is crucial to the statement. Levivich (talk) 19:04, 16 November 2023 (UTC)- If you wish to revert my edits but change "dangerous" to "riskiest", I have no objections. -- GnocchiFan (talk) 13:40, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, I appreciate that. I'll leave it as it is because if no one else besides me thinks it's that important, then it probably isn't that important :-) Levivich (talk) 17:24, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- If you wish to revert my edits but change "dangerous" to "riskiest", I have no objections. -- GnocchiFan (talk) 13:40, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 22 October 2024
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Moved as an uncontested request with minimal participation. Best, (closed by non-admin page mover) Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 06:33, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Policy paper: Options for a policy regarding Gaza's civilian population → Options for a policy regarding Gaza's civilian population – I think it's fair to surmise that "Policy paper" is not supposed to be read as part of the paper's title: it is intended to let the recipient know what they are about to read. Therefore on the grounds of WP:CONCISE I propose that this unnecessary explainer be removed. TRCRF22 (talk) 18:14, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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