Talk:Old Town Road

Remix

Jake Owen is missing as as songwriter on the latest remix, he co-wrote the Mason Ramsey verse with Ernest K. Smith as shown on Spotify. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeehaw45 (talk • contribs) 02:56, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

A source for this would be the “credits” section of Spotify. , I’m unsure of how to proceed with having an edit made to a protected page but this is a clear case of a missing name for a songwriter, and Jake Owen is a notable name as well so this edit should be made, if someone can help me with that it would be much appreciated. - Yeehaw45 (talk) 19:31, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Please add Jake Owen to the list of songwriters on the Young Thug - Mason Ramsey remix. Yeehaw45 (talk) 16:46, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:51, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

What more does there need to be a consensus? The user provided a source and clearly factual information that is missing from the article. 2607:FEA8:54DF:FB38:40C6:F36D:2930:26B6 (talk) 03:55, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

No consensus is needed. I'm adding Jake Owen. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 02:17, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

References

Billboard genre classification controversy

Under the section, "Billboard genre classification controversy" I am trying to clarify a statement made by Lil Nas X. The last sentence in the first paragraph that reads, " In an interview, Time reporter Andrew R. Chow brought up Billboard's decision to remove "Old Town Road" from the Country chart but keep it on the R&B/Hip-Hop chart, asking Lil Nas X if he considers "Old Town Road" a country song. Lil Nas X replied, "The song is country trap. It's not one, it's not the other. It's both. It should be on both [charts].

I followed the link to the Times article and that is what the Times article says both written and in the video - however Lil Nas X is not speaking in the video. It's just a narrator reading.

The reason I bring this up is because the New York Times has a Youtube channel with a video about this song. It is with a different interviewer named Joe Coscarelli. It is called "How Lil Nas X Took ‘Old Town Road’ From TikTok Meme to No. 1 | Diary of a Song"

The video was released about 5 weeks after the Times article.

In the video a similar question is asked. When asked, "Did you conceive the song as a country rap song?" Lil Nas X answered, "Country trap. But like if I had to choose which one it's leaning towards it would definitely be country."

It seems that Lil Nas X's answer to Joe Coscarelli should be included in the article in the "Billboard genre classification controversy" section. Especially since it is Lil Nas X actually answering the question on camera.

2600:1700:7A51:10B0:D0EE:9EED:1FB:E997 (talk) 21:15, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Would that not just be Lil Nas X speaking on the genre of the song, as compared to the other quote where he's directly talking about the Billboard chart controversy? Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 22:58, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

My bad, I see now that I assumed there was a connection. I figured the NYT question would not have been asked had it not been for the controversy but since that isn't clearly linked together: it's my assumption. Didn't notice my mistake until now. Thanks. 2600:1700:7A51:10B0:60F5:885D:C7C7:ECAC (talk) 13:39, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

References

Logo Use

Unresolved

@Nice4What:, Can you show me where the use of the Billboard logo has been discussed before per your edit summary? I agree with Marchjuly that the inclusion of the logo is not covered by Fair Use excessive in this case.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 23:05, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

I've striken "not covered by fair use" bit as the logo was not uploaded under the fair use criteria. -- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 23:09, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

I'll look into the edit history but it was through earlier reverts. I would agree that the logo isn't necessary, though if it's completely free I'm not opposed to keeping its inclusion. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 23:43, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

FWIW, my removal of the logo had nothing to do with WP:NFCCP; the file's not licensed as non-free content so that policy wouldn't apply anyway. I removed the file because it's use in this article is not encyclopedically relevant in anyway and is not related to the controversy in anyway. YuoTube is also mentioned by name in the article, but that doesn't mean File:YouTube Logo 2017.svg needs to be added to the article; Rolling Stone is mentioned by name is the same section, but that doesn't mean File:RollingStoneLogo2019.png needs to be added to the article. The citations in the image caption could just be moved the body of the article in support of content about the controversy.

It looks like the logo was first added with this edit by you (= Nice4What); it's OK to be WP:BOLD and do that. It looks like it was then removed here and then you re-added it here. The first removal mistook the file for being non-free and gave that as the reason for removal; so, your re-adding the file is sort of understandable. My edit sum, however, had nothing to do with the file's licensing, but rather it's use contextually. So, once I removed it (my removal was clearly not a case of vandalism or an otherwise major policy/guideline violation) even after some time has passed, then you or anyone else who wanted to re-add it should've really follow WP:BRD and establish a consensus to do so. It's not really BOLD, REVERT, REVERT BACK, and then DISCUSS (WP:BRRD); the onus is on you to establish a consensus for inclusion, not for others to establish a consensus for removal. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:09, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: I would have to agree with you. If the logo is not seen as encyclopedic, and there's no consensus to include it, it makes sense to be removed. I will add that the only reason I believe the Billboard logo is appropriate as compared to other examples you listed is that the subsection is titled "Billboard genre classification controversy" and is all about the magazine's decisions. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 13:32, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

I came to this talk page because I saw the Billboard logo and wanted to suggest removal. I support removing the logo, which I don't find particularly relevant or necessary. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:54, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Children’s connection

• kids-are-obsessed-with-the-record-breaking-old-town-road/ May be of interest. Gleeanon409 (talk) 06:57, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Charts

It currently says that the song only peaked at 19 in Canada, while it did have 19 weeks at number 1 in the hot 100, you can confirm it by following the link Yturrules (talk) 12:28, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

@Yturrules: The Billboard Hot 100 is a US chart, not a Canadian chart. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 03:36, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 September 2019

For the sentence under the Composition heading "The song is composed in the key of G♯ minor with a chord progression of G♯7-Badd9-F♯sus4-E6. It has an approximate tempo of 68 beats per minute.[32]"

I suggest it be changed to "The song is composed using a chord progression of G♯7-Badd9-F♯sus4-E6. This progression features a modulation between two keys with the first chord G#7 belonging to the key of C# major and the remainder in the key of G# minor. It has an approximate tempo of 68 beats per minute."

You could cite ME - I lecture in music composition and music production at the Australian Institute of Music in Sydney. [1], because I've seen no accurate analysis anywhere on the web. Tamajamma (talk) 07:08, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

 Not done. The statement in the article is sourced; please see WP:RS. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 18:08, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 September 2019

i think the fact that it's the longest running #1 single in american chart history should be added somewhere at the front of the article, not just the fact that it was #1 for a record breaking 19 weeks. Saucenoappetizer (talk) 02:33, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

 Already done Read the 3rd paragraph of the lede more carefully:

Though the song was not re-entered onto the overall country charts, both the original version of the song and the remix featuring Cyrus eventually peaked at number one on the flagship Billboard chart, the Hot 100, for a record-breaking nineteen consecutive weeks.[3][4]

Cannolis (talk) 14:52, 20 September 2019 (UTC)