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Background section too large?

Ping OdNahlawi - Are these two mass injection of background material really needed for this article Special:Diff/1248822098 Special:Diff/1248823071? A lot of this is questionably copy/pasted verbatim from other Wikipedia articles and could be made much more brief. - Fuzheado | Talk 17:28, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. They should be summarized significantly.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 07:33, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1 casualty - a Palestinian died from the Iranian attack

From Ynet in Hebrew - https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/hk00uv2kar אלון סול (talk) 17:52, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's been added. Procyon117 (talk) 18:04, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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8 israelis killed in tel aviv,israeli tanks destroyed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Хончик (talk • contribs) 18:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 18:41, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is in a seperate attacks at a train/tram station that was actually few hours before this. I removed that.Sportsnut24 (talk) 03:12, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Casualties

8 israelis killed Israeli tanks destroyed 84.54.72.132 (talk) 18:51, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source of you bs? 147.235.205.61 (talk) 20:39, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean the recent shooting? Drsmartypants(Smarty M.D) (talk) 21:39, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there is a seperate article on wiki already. The IP is talking nonsense. Sportsnut24 (talk) 03:13, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Number of missiles

The lead says "about 200 missiles", CNN is saying "Iran fired 180 projectiles" per Israel military ([1]) 46.222.189.150 (talk) 19:47, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reuters currently state "nearly 200" missiles per the Israeli Army. Sky News are reporting the same (200), quoting Israeli Army Radio. However the BBC state "approximately 180" citing the IDF. The Guardian says "nearly 200". It doesn't seem immediately clear right now. GhostOfNoMan 20:09, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Casualties 8 israelis killed Israeli tanks destroyed Хончик (talk) 19:49, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems the 8 (or 6) casualties aren't properly speaking product of the Iran attack, but an stabbing attack, [2] 46.222.189.150 (talk) 19:56, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Mr. Komori (talk) 20:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The two are not related. this was also for haniyeh's assassination.Sportsnut24 (talk) 01:07, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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The falling rockets

Throughout the country, interceptions of ballistic missiles from Iran were observed - also over the Temple Mount - but many falls were also recorded. In the Negev, explosions were seen one after the other, in the north of Tel Aviv, a rocket destroyed a restaurant. A crater was opened in the yard of a school in Gedera, which was badly damaged. Interception documents came from Gaza and Jordan, remnants of missiles fell in Yosh - and near Jericho, a Gazan laborer was killed.

https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/hjalsnkrc#google_vignette 2A0D:6FC0:993:2700:70B1:1941:B7AD:9B4A (talk) 21:12, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UN Security Council to convene a meeting

The UN said it will convene a meeting to discuss prevention of war and about the regional conflict over Palestine SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 21:59, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

French, British, German, and EU Reactions

CNN reported this:

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-10-1-24-intl-hnk#cm1qxbahc00003b6quq1oq20y

France, Britain, Germany, and the EU all condemned Iranians aggression against the state of Israel and Britain called his Israeli counterpart to discuss about the increasing tensions in the region. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 22:00, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation

@Fuzheado: See WP:NAMB. Hatnotes are not for related articles. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:40, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's not exactly that relevant guideline to this situation. The reason why that disambig is valid is because that article used to be called "2024 Iranian strikes against Israel" which can cause a lot of confusion. - Fuzheado | Talk 01:20, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why only missile interceptions shown in info box and not impact?

Why only missile interceptions shown in info box and not impact? Is Wikipedia also pro-Israeli? 202.47.36.141 (talk) 00:00, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Someone missed the Fundamental attribution error lecture. In all seriousness, we just don't have that info yet; it's only been 12 hours. If you can locate a reliable, secondary source that contains that information, make an edit request to have it included. But please refrain from making blanket accusations like that, it's not helping anyone. 🏵️Etrius ( Us) 03:32, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Remove bias

The text "It has been suggested that with the leadership of Hezbollah decimated and other militias weakened, the Iranian regime, already unpopular with its citizens and vulnerable to attacks, may accelerate its pursuit of nuclear weapons.", particularly the bold parts, clearly imply bias (with the usage of "regime") and convey redundant information ("...unpopular with its citizens and vulnerable to attacks..."), which can be deemed rather unnecessary by readers. So how about you make it more neutral? Wirmaple73 (talk) 01:03, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Sportsnut24 (talk) 01:08, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Missiles

It says some of the missiles were launched from the outskirts of Tehran. That's 1000 miles from Israel, and the range of the Fattah missile is supposed to be only 870 miles. — THORNFIELD HALL^(Talk) 02:05, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We'll know more in the next day or two. Also, tehran is further north and other places are closer.Sportsnut24 (talk) 03:11, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Хончик (talk) 02:38, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

Hello. I'm Noam from Israel. Yesterday I was taking shelter from the rockets from Iran to my country Israel. I live in Jerusalem. I'd like to help you guys with improving the article, but because of the protection, I cant. Can you explain how to send an edit request? I'm new to wikipedia. Noam Atadgy (talk) 02:58, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Use {{edit extended-protected|October 2024 Iranian strikes against Israel}} Sportsnut24 (talk) 03:08, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Noam,

I would like to comment and say you will very likely not receive ECP access. This talk page allows you to ask ECP users and request that a particular topic or a correction be made. Just post what you want here and a ECP user will review it and choose to add it if need be. 192.184.149.115 (talk) 06:28, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sportsnut24: I hope you don't mind, I inserted the word "Use" before the edit request template and referenced the template with Tlx, so the template is named rather than displayed. It makes no sense to display the template without an actual request. —Anomalocaris (talk) 06:48, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The cameras

The movies that people of Israel and Gaza take with phone , show us that many damages! How they say there's nothing?! 5.52.11.211 (talk) 04:01, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iran's justification

Iran has offered wordy justifications for the strikes. I've phrased them as follows:

Iran said the attack was in "self-defense", and cited the assassination of Hassan Nasrallah and other Hezbollah commanders, the assassination of Ismail Haniyeh (inside Iran) and killing of Iranian general Abbas Nilforoushan.

I'm open to rewording. Here are some points:

Several sources point out that Iran cited Article 51 and the right of self-defense for the strikes:[3][4][5][6]
Abbas Nilforoushan was an Iranian general, not a Hezbollah commander, I think that's important to mention
While Nasrallah was killed in Lebanon, Haniyeh was killed inside Iran and that I feel is significant too. WaPo for example points out that he was killed in Tehran[7][8].

VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 06:28, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thai Prime minister reaction

Source in thai Thai Prime Minister prepares for potential evacuation of Thai migrant workers Pataratorn (talk) 07:04, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prior Iran-Israel attacks

I've added prior Iran-Israel attacks of April 2024:

I think all are significant, although the amount of space to be given to each is debatable. Maybe we should summarize them. But for now, the article length isn't at all a concern.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 07:32, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Attack on Mossad headquarters, Nevatim and Hatzerim air base

The Iranian media reports an attack on Mossad headquarters, Nevatim and Hatzerim Air Force Bases, as well as [anti-missile] radars and groups of Israeli tanks. Is there any confirmation of such statements? https://en.mehrnews.com/news/222293/Iran-to-hit-all-Israel-infrastructures-if-Zionists-not-curbed There is also information that the Iron Dome was ineffective against ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. This should be mentioned in the article 91.210.248.204 (talk) 08:16, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]