Talk:Nusantara (term)

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Please fix.

Going by the link I took to get to this page and by what I can gather from the content of the page I think that Nusantara might be a city, country, or region, but the article doesn't specifically say. I can also assume after reading through the page that Nusantara is either in or near Indonesia (or Indonesia itself?). The first thing in the article should say Nusanatara is _____ (city, state, country, region, territory, w/e). I just checked a few different pages and from what I've seen most articles about areas mention what and where they are in the first paragraph. This page talks about where the name came from not what refers to (is it a colloquial outdated name for some area?). I have no knowledge about the topic so I'm begging anyone to please fix this page.Eno-Etile 06:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

[edit] Uhg after a little looking around I found out more or less what Nusantara is, and I am going to make some changes.But this page still needs someone with more knowledge to fix it. I'm not entirely sure that this page needs to be separate from the Malay World article.Eno-Etile 06:39, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Malay Word and Nusantara are separated concept

I'll building this article, and i want to inform you that "malay word" and Nusantara are separated article. Now i am working with that and this article would describe also the differences between both concept. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Itemboleh (talk • contribs) 02:13, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't have much to work with, just that they used to be the same article. It's nice to see someone working on this article. Eno-Etile 04:09, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Don't merge, malay world is bigger than Indonesia, simple. Mallerd (talk) 18:51, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No further comment

As the merge has remained untalked for over six months - have removed tag, also the biography project template seems unexplained - removed as well Satu Suro 14:42, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Translation from Wikipedia Indonesia

The latest edit I've made was base from wikipedia Indonesia, which I think it's closer to the Nusantara concept we held today in Indonesia, also its history and origin revived by Douwes Dekker in 1920s. If it weaks or flaw in grammar please do help edit it, not just simply revert and undo it. If the reasons was "unreferenced", the previous also unreferenced, Thank you. (Gunkarta (talk) 10:38, 20 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

The solution to unreferenced content is not to replace it or add to it with more unreferenced content. --Merbabu (talk) 10:42, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just stubbed the article. I removed the majority of the unreferenced text. Until something reliable can be found (NOT Indonesian wikipedia), then it should remain as it is. --Merbabu (talk) 11:03, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay.., lets rewrite this "Nusantara" based on valid references (Gunkarta (talk) 11:05, 20 November 2009 (UTC)).[reply]

That should not be a novel concept. --Merbabu (talk) 11:07, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How About "Wawasan Nusantara"?

I just remember the old lesson of PMP/PPkn, Geography, and "Kewiraan" (some kind of "citizenship lesson") back in highschool and college. It is about how Indonesian (political) view of themself, their homeland and surrounding area:

In Indonesian:

Wawasan Nusantara adalah cara pandang bangsa Indonesia tentang diri dan lingkungan sekitarnya berdasarkan ide nasionalnya yang berlandaskan pancasila dan UUD 1945 (Undang-Undang Dasar 1945) yang merupakan aspirasi bangsa Indonesia yang merdeka, berdaulat, bermartabat serta menjiawai tata hidup dalam mencapai tujuan perjuangan nasional.

Wawasan Nusantara telah diterima dan disahkan sebagai konsepsi politik kewarganegaraan yang termaktub / tercantum dalam dasar-dasar berikut ini :

1. Ketetapan MPR Nomor IV/MPR/1973 tanggal 22 maret 1973

2. TAP MPR Nomor IV/MPR/1978 tanggal 22 maret 1978 tentang GBHN

3. TAP MPR nomor II/MPR/1983 tanggal 12 Maret 1983

Ruang lingkup dan cakupan wawasan nusantara dalam TAP MPR '83 dalam mencapat tujuan pembangunan nasional :

1. Kesatuan Politik

2. Kesatuan Ekonomi

3. Kesatuan Sosial Budaya

4. Kesatuan Pertahanan Keamanan

Should it be in separate article from "Nusantara" or part of "Nusantara"? (Gunkarta (talk) 11:21, 20 November 2009 (UTC)).[reply]

why not start with English sources? It is afterall English wikipedia --Merbabu (talk) 11:27, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

what if the english source is scarce or unavailable? and plenty of Indonesian one. (Gunkarta (talk) 11:33, 20 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

I think the Indonesian academic curriculum is overly nationalist. Not very reliable or neutral. Better nothing or sedikit info rather than lots of poor quality. --Merbabu (talk) 11:36, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nusantara is not a name just from "Indonesian" only

Hafizah Iszahanid (2018) in his Berita Harian article clearly states how Nusantara as a term specifically referring to "Indonesian" islands only is known among Indonesians only, while neighboring countries like Malaysia & Singapore using it for the whole region beyond Indonesia is well recorded. I don't understand how BahasaKitaSemua dismisses and deletes my corrective addition. Their user page is just a copypaste of an article regarding Indonesian stance against Malaysia proposing some sort of auxillary Malay language standard as an official working ASEAN language a la Modern Standard Arabic; it is feared that Bahasa Kitasemua has a Indonesian nationalist stance that negates any Malaysian perspective added as constructive input into this article. 175.141.174.152 (talk) 16:03, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]