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Requested move 28 February 2021

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Number 111 (1919 film)Number 111 (1920 film) – Any and all sources for this film show that it was was released in January of 1920. —NTD (talk) 14:20, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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@Paine Ellsworth:, I disagree with the closing, because the source accuaretly states that only the book which the film was based on was written in 1919, while the film was first technically presented on 28 January 1920, and commercially released two days after...I don't think we should wait months to remedy this...(KIENGIR (talk) 03:13, 10 March 2021 (UTC))[reply]

To editor KIENGIR: I know, and I can see how you would justify disagreement; however, I did do some research myself. It's not deep research and I only uncovered two other sources, Rate Your Music and Alchetron (mirror site of Wikipedia). As you can see, RYM gives the release date as 8 January 1920, while Alchetron just gives the release year as 1919. Seems to be no consistency in the sources, and in cases like this Wikipedia falls back on the long-term title and consensus. This article has been disambiguated as a 1919 film since it was first created in 2012. That's almost nine years of long-term consensus, and as a closer, I have to take that consensus into consideration. Consensus can change, so you are going to need more reliable, secondary, independent, English-language sources with a 1920 release date to overcome that long-term, community consensus. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 03:53, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
PS. Gentle reminder that when looking for reliable sources, watch out for "mirror sites" of Wikipedia, which will probably quote this article's text and show a 1919 release date. PS left by P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 04:07, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]