Talk:Northwest Conference (1902–1925)

1904 All-Northwest

PK-WIKI, I saw your edit here regarding the November 27, 1904 reference. First, this is for 1904, not 1903. Second, this article doesn't appear to be discussing the conference, but rather a "mythical" all-regional team and rankings of teams in the Northwest region. Jweiss11 (talk) 03:07, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Interesting. Will continue searching for conference rankings for the remaining years. PK-WIKI (talk) 03:41, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Sources for football champions and conference standings

I'd like to collect contemporary citations for NIAA football standings and conference champions. PK-WIKI (talk) 06:22, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Some templates have already been created, but the other redlinks beflow need sources. Please feel free to contribute/discuss sources below.

• Template:1902 Northwest Conference football standings
• Template:1903 Northwest Conference football standings

• Washington is undisputed northwestern champion of the colleges

• Template:1904 Northwest Conference football standings

• 1904 "All-Northwest" rankings, not strictly conference teams, Oregon champion

• Template:1905 Northwest Conference football standings

• "Idaho (1905), last year's northwest champions..." 1905 Idaho football team

• Template:1906 Northwest Conference football standings

• W.S.C.'s Chance for Title ... the race for the northwest intercollegiate championship 1906 Washington State football team

• Template:1907 Northwest Conference football standings

• Discussion of "Northwest championship" prior to the Thanksgiving games
• Seattle Times — December 4, 1907: Pleading to be admitted to the Northwest Intercollegiate Conference, Pullman accuses the university of being prejudiced against the Farmer College... Mentions fighting articles in the campus papers.

• Template:1908 Northwest Conference football standings
• Template:1909 Northwest Conference football standings

• Y "Ranking of Northwest Teams" in The Oregon Daily Journal ranks the Big Six, exclusive, based on conference record. UW/WSC tied for first.
• Spokesman Review ranks the teams and headlines "WSC has equal claim to championship with Washington".
• The Pullman Herald claims the title for 1909 Washington State football team. "Champions of the Northwest" ... "leaves W.S.C. Northwest champion" ... "Neither W.S.C. nor the University of Washington lost a game during the season..." This may be an All-Northwest selection rather than conference standings.

• Template:1910 Northwest Conference football standings

• Y Spokesman Review "Ranking of the Teams", Big Six exclusive.

• Template:1911 Northwest Conference football standings

• Y "Conference Football Rankings" in The Oregonian
• Basketball Seattle Times — March 17, 2004: 1911 UW wins the first Northwest Intercollegiate Conference championship. 1910–11 Washington Huskies men's basketball team
• 1912 NCAA book, page 253 — Foot Ball in the Pacific Northwest by Roscoe Fawcetts, ports editor of The Oregonian: "Washington won the championship for the fourth consecutive time, by a greater margin than ever. Oregon University and the Oregon Agricultural College tied for second, although the two ancient rivals did not meet, while Washington State College, Idaho University and Whitman College followed in the above order. Idaho's transposition with Washington State furnished the only change in the percentage column from the year previous. [...] In the con-Conference division Willamette University outclassed everything in sight, in fact Dr. G. J. Sweetland's men might be ranked almost on a par with Oregon University and the Oregon 'Aggies'."

• Template:1912 Northwest Conference football standings

• Y N. W. Conference Final Standings "...the five-time champions, the University of Washington."

• Template:1913 Northwest Conference football standings
• Template:1914 Northwest Conference football standings

• Carried widely on a national newswire: With seven consecutive Pacific northwest intercollegiate conference championships to its credit, the University of Washington football team...

• Template:1915 Northwest Conference football standings

• Y Northwest Conference Standings
• N Source above does not distinguish between champion and co-champion for:

• 1915 Washington State football team
• 1915 Washington football team

• Spokane Chronicle describes a co-championship.

• Template:1916 Northwest Conference football standings, Template:1916 Pacific Coast Conference football standings

• ? "Records of Football Teams in Northwest" listing the Big Six, plus California, the only other member of the PCC. Not ranked/ordered.
• November 6 Spokesman-Review "Four Teams Have Chance for Title — Northwest Football Championship — Football championship of the northwest"

• Template:1917 Northwest Conference football standings, Template:1917 Pacific Coast Conference football standings
• Template:1918 Northwest Conference football standings, Template:1918 Pacific Coast Conference football standings

• 1919 Spalding foot Ball Guide, page 67: "The Northwest and Pacific Coast Conference championships were canceled on account of the war, although some of the teams in this association met on the gridiron." — George Bertz, The Oregon Journal sports editor

• Template:1919 Northwest Conference football standings, Template:1919 Pacific Coast Conference football standings
• Template:1920 Northwest Conference football standings, Template:1920 Pacific Coast Conference football standings
• Template:1921 Northwest Conference football standings, Template:1921 Pacific Coast Conference football standings
• Template:1922 Northwest Conference football standings, Template:1922 Pacific Coast Conference football standings
• Template:1923 Northwest Conference football standings, Template:1923 Pacific Coast Conference football standings
• Template:1924 Northwest Conference football standings, Template:1924 Pacific Coast Conference football standings
• Template:1925 Northwest Conference football standings, Template:1925 Pacific Coast Conference football standings

1908 conference re-founding?

There appears to have been a (re-?)founding of a northwest athletic conference in 1908.

Sources after this seem to mostly call it the "Pacific Northwest Intercollegiate Conference" or "Northwest Intercollegiate Conference". Also sometimes the "Big Six".

Unclear how this 1908 group relates to the "Northwest Intercollegiate Athletic Association" (NIAA) formed in 1902 or how either relate to the common name "Northwest Conference".

September 1907 suggestion of withdrawing from the "Pacific Northwest Association" under the supervision of the "American Amateur Athletic League".

a plan whereby the leading universities and colleges of the northwest shall form an association and determine standards of athletics and amateurism among the colleges in this part of the west.

There was formerly a like association among the schools of the northwest. But it has been allowed to drift into decay until at present there is no attention paid by the colleges to it.

"I have long wanted to see such organization mad" said Captain Dimmick of the Whitman football team. The P.N.A is not the thing to regulate college athletics and the soon we have a college organization, the better it will be for college athletics."

In January 1908 Whitman sent invites to a meeting held in Walla Walla to form an athletic conference:

For Conference of Northwest Colleges, January 1908

The long talked of and much discussed conference of the colleges of the northwest to arrange a uniform and satisfactory basis for athletic relations is apparently about to be consummated.

The big bone of contention in arranging for this conference has been the attitude of the U. of W., which held out for a three cornered preliminary conference, including representatives only of the universities of Washington, Oregon and Idaho...

(The trio of Washington/Oregon/Idaho matches the John Barrett Cup trophy won by Washington in 1908 and 1909.)

The call for the conference issued by the associated students of Whitman, is as follows: "There has been a great deal of agitation this winter concerning the formation of a northwest conference for the regulation of athletics and perhaps other intercollegiate activities, and there is no question that such an organization of the institutions of the northwest is badly needed. The progress of the football season last fall and the disgraceful 'mud slinging' that has followed it shows that the present system, or rather lack of system, in our intercollegiate relations is not at all satisfactory. Something should be done.

We hereby invite the following northwest colleges and universities--the Oregon Agricultural college, the University of Oregon, the University of Washington, the Washington State college, the University of Idaho, and Whitman college--to be represented in a meeting in Walla Walla to be called on Friday, February 7 1908

I recently deleted some unsourced info about schools being 1908 re-founding members. Some info about this is still in the prose. Should be researched and evaluated; not sure how this will influence the 1902-1908 era football standings.

PK-WIKI (talk) 07:24, 8 December 2024 (UTC)