Talk:Niagara (1953 film)

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Niagara as film noir

Regarding whether Niagara is film noir, I list a few sources:

http://www.culturecourt.com/F/Noir/Niagara.htm http://www.filmmonthly.com/Noir/Articles/Niagara/Niagara.html http://www.marilyncollector.com/legend/niagara.html http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046126/

I know labeling what is and isn't film noir is confusing, but just because it's color doesn't mean it's not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steve Eifert (talk • contribs) 21:21, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Visually it cannot be called film noir. It's largely daylight scenes, with scenic vistas, no less. Psychologically, it just doesn't have the "atmosphere". Sure, it has crime and suspense, but many films do. That doesn't make it film noir. I think it's a huge stretch to call this film "noir", others' opinions notwithstanding. Kelisi 12:06, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

But that's not fact. Read the film noir article. And thanks for the writing slam. At least I know what I'm talking about. Steve-O — Preceding undated comment added 12:24, 20 August 2005‎

Actually, I did read it, and I don't think the description of the genre there describes Niagara in any way. Your assertions aren't facts, either, and no number of inclusions on any number of lists is any kind of "proof". It's just someone's opinion, one that I don't agree with. I'll further point out that you have given no reason other than these people's opinion to support your contention that Niagara is film noir. That makes your statement "At least I know what I'm talking about" at least somewhat suspect. Kelisi 13:35, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

to prove my point again, here's a list with the vague title "Greatest of Early and Classic Film Noir" and you'll see it's listed. You will also note that Vertigo is on the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steve Eifert (talk • contribs) 12:35, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

- As for Vertigo, I can see some justification for calling it noir. It is not only suspenseful, but it has a further psychological aspect in its theme of the central character's abject terror of heights. It also has its surreal aspect, wouldn't you say? Kelisi 13:35, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]