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Requested move 8 April 2021

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. (non-admin closure) Wanchan2020 (talk) 23:17, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New Japan Pro-Wrestling World → NJPW World – Being the service URL and the logo and more commonly used by users and in the media, it is WP:COMMONNAME and also the preferred name on NJPW's official English website[1][2]. Wanchan2020 (talk) 06:36, 8 April 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 09:24, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose no indication that this acronym meets WP:ACROTITLE, part of the article titles policy (t · c) buidhe 07:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 6 May 2021

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It was proposed in this section that New Japan Pro-Wrestling World be renamed and moved to NJPW World.

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No consensus. See below no agreement as to whether or not to rename this article with the initialism (not an acronym) "NJPW". So this page will retain its present title for now. As is usual with a no-consensus outcome, editors can strengthen their arguments and try again in a few months to garner consensus for a title change. Kudos to all editors for your input, and Happy, Healthy Publishing! (nac by page mover) P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 08:19, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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New Japan Pro-Wrestling World → NJPW World – It is the official English name. Current title is a mistranslation of the Japanese name. Wanchan2020 (talk) 09:48, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @McPhail, HHH Pedrigree, Piotr Bart, King Rudra, and TheDeviantPro. Wanchan2020 (talk) 09:48, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's the common and official name. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 10:31, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose move, we just did this one a month ago. WP:ACROTITLE applies here and there's no evidence the initials form the common name. O.N.R. ^(talk) 11:18, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Old Naval Rooftops and Buidhe: "We" didn't. It was just me and one user unfamiliar with the subject who I didn't contest due to a lack of support. Proposed article name isn't an acronym. Nor is the existing name a descriptive title derived from "New Japan Pro-Wrestling". Nor is there evidence that the existing name is the common name that trumps the official name. Wanchan2020 (talk) 20:24, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per the website for the service. To quote from the terms of use, "These Terms of Use ("Terms") set forth the terms of use of the service ("Service") provided on the "NJPW WORLD" website ("Website")". "NJPW World" is the official name of the service. McPhail (talk) 15:15, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- That particular page might be disputed as possibly being a machine translation. This page isn't machine translated and supports McPhail's point. Wanchan2020 (talk) 20:29, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The official name is of course used in primary sources. That means nothing. The claim that the current name is a mistranslation, and so not in some sense correct, is similarly irrelevant. In order to move the article, we need evidence that the proposed name better meets the article name policy than the current name does, and we have none. Andrewa (talk) 06:39, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Andrewa: Saying it "means nothing" is harsh, isn't it? If I manage to produce the evidence, would you change your opinion? ~~Or is this trolling and~~ I shouldn't even bother? Wanchan2020 (talk) 11:16, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - Of course if you produce relevant evidence I will change my !vote. Taking your allegation of trolling up on your talk page. Andrewa (talk) 11:35, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Andrewa: So your opposition is solely based on a poor reason given in my request. Poor due to lack of evidence. And you have no opinion on whether the existing or the proposed name is better based on policies? Then it can be ignored when determining consensus. Wanchan2020 (talk) 14:25, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      - That is entirely up to the closer to determine. I disagree obviously, but we will see. Andrewa (talk) 20:02, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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