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In 1995, there were almost 20,000 board-certified lawyers in the United States. By 2009 that number increased to more than 35,000 lawyers.^[1] According to the American Bar Association's research in 2008 there were 1,180,386 attorneys licensed to practice law in the United States.^[2] Of these the ABA estimates 74% are in private practice; thus approximately 4% of practicing lawyers are currently board certified by states or ABA accredited agencies. Moreover,there are now seven private organizations with ABA-accredited certification programs, 12 state sponsored certification plans and eight state sponsored plans to accredit private certifiers.^[3] Today attorney board certificaction is now available in 49 specialty fields by certifying agencies either operated by a state or one of the ABA accredited private agencies like the NBLSC^[4]

Nevertheless, full acceptance of the validity and importance of board certification by all courts and all states has not been achieved.^[5] Still, there are NBLSC certified attorneys in most if not all states^[6], and their numbers are growing.^[7]

Temporarily taken out of articlespace for cleanup. Neutrality^talk 05:39, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ [, p. 2.]
^ http://new.abanet.org/marketresearch/PublicDocuments/Lawyer_Demographics.pdf
^ Cite error: The named reference standards was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Id. at p. 3.
^ Compare, e.g. http://www.abanet.org/legalservices/specialization/source.html (listing current state sponsored and ABA accredited legal specialty certification programs) and http://www.abanet.org/cpr/mrpc/rule_7_4.htmlwith (setting forth the American Bar Association's Model Rule of Professional Conduct 7.4 allowing board certified attorneys to communicate "the lawyer has been certified as a specialist" but only "by an organization that has been approved by an appropriate state authority or that has been accredited by the American Bar Association") with, for example, http://www.state.il.us/court/SupremeCourt/Rules/Art_VIII/ArtVIII_NEW.htm#7.4 (setting forth Illinois' version of Rule 7.4 which, with few exceptions forbids lawyers from communicating they are board certified without a disclaimer, even for certifications by ABA accredited certifying agencies, stating: "the Supreme Court of Illinois does not recognize certifications of specialties in the practice of law and that the certificate, award or recognition is not a requirement to practice law in Illinois.")
^ "About National Board of Legal Specialty Certification (NBLSC) Members". Nblsc.us. Retrieved 2010-07-08.
^ http://www.abanet.org/legalservices/specialization/downloads/2010census.pdf

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The result of the move request was: moved (non-admin closure) Wugapodes [t^hɑk] [ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz] 21:54, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

National Board of Legal Specialty Certification → National Board of Trial Advocacy – Organization no longer known as National Board of Legal Specialty Certification. Request page moved to accurately reflect organization name. See https://www.nbtalawyers.org/ Wschlaht (talk) 14:59, 13 May 2019 (UTC)--Relisting. samee converse 16:27, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support also appears to be the more WP:COMMONNAME as per search results (12k for current title and over 100,000 for proposed). 103.113.0.182 (talk) 03:56, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

My search is based on normal Google results. 103.113.0.182 (talk) 04:02, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose pending better evidence (so should relist IMO). Nomination is based on a common mistake regarding official names and shows no understanding of the matter of issue. Ghit counts don't of themselves show anything... are the hits relevant? Is there a recent difference (the article doesn't seem to say when the renaming occurred, or have I missed it?). We need the actual searches. Nom is an SPA with no other edits, so possible undiclosed COI. Andrewa (talk) 18:06, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support, per this NGram. bd2412 T 16:44, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

[1] [, p. 2.]

[2] ttp://new.abanet.org/marketresearch/PublicDocuments/Lawyer_Demographics.pdf

[standards-3] Cite error: The named reference standards was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[4] Id. at p. 3.

[5] Compare, e.g. http://www.abanet.org/legalservices/specialization/source.html (listing current state sponsored and ABA accredited legal specialty certification programs) and http://www.abanet.org/cpr/mrpc/rule_7_4.htmlwith (setting forth the American Bar Association's Model Rule of Professional Conduct 7.4 allowing board certified attorneys to communicate "the lawyer has been certified as a specialist" but only "by an organization that has been approved by an appropriate state authority or that has been accredited by the American Bar Association") with, for example, http://www.state.il.us/court/SupremeCourt/Rules/Art_VIII/ArtVIII_NEW.htm#7.4 (setting forth Illinois' version of Rule 7.4 which, with few exceptions forbids lawyers from communicating they are board certified without a disclaimer, even for certifications by ABA accredited certifying agencies, stating: "the Supreme Court of Illinois does not recognize certifications of specialties in the practice of law and that the certificate, award or recognition is not a requirement to practice law in Illinois.")

[6] "About National Board of Legal Specialty Certification (NBLSC) Members". Nblsc.us. Retrieved 2010-07-08.

[7] ttp://www.abanet.org/legalservices/specialization/downloads/2010census.pdf

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