Talk:Mungo Jerry

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Great work on Mungo Jerry! I'm glad to see such an extensive article on this band that hardly anyone seems to know about. Good job. Dwain 20:13, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree! Mungo Jerry is awesome =)

Love. Suz, NL - May 7, 06.

There seems to be a bit of an editing war between 1946 and 1945 for Ray Dorset's birth year. My extensive research does favour the latter, but has someone got more substantial evidence ?

Derek R Bullamore 19:31, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

googling him has revealed that his birthday is March 21, 1946. user:roxysmashsir43

Sure, it's extensive, but it's littered with personal opinion too - and that just devalues it. A shame really, because for a band most people would only remember from the early 70's there's a lot of information here.David T Tokyo 17:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've just gone and fixed some of the more obvious vandalism on this page, but there's plenty more I've not been able to figure out. Under current members, it previously mentioned an Alan Johnson, but that appears to be a PR person according to [[1]]. I'm not sure there are any permanent members any more. I'm also a little dubious of the last album apparently released - I couldn't find any reference to it online (but then I couldn't find any reference to the previous album either, except for on the official site). There's doubtless further acts of vandalism here, but I don't have the time (or particular inclination) to go through validating everything on this page - but I thought I'd raise my suspicions. 92.10.194.8 (talk) 00:46, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article is obviously written by professional reps of the group. It's not an encyclopedia article, it's a promo piece. Way too much information about a very minor and inconsequential band.74.196.214.250 (talk) 00:32, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah Bless. So they didn't make it huge in the USA. Not to worry. There are many Musicians that are Huge in the USA that the rest of the World has never heard of. Myself I've been a fan on Mungo Jerry since I was a small child. They had quite a few hits in the early 70s here in the UK and I've followed their music ever since. 146.90.102.244 (talk) 13:41, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above comment that Mungo Jerry were a "very minor and inconsequential band" is subjective. As highlighted in the article's opening paragraph (and confirmed by Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).http://www.everyhit.comCite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).), between June 1970 and April 1974 Mungo Jerry scored two number one UK hits ("In The Summertime" and "Baby Jump"), a number three hit ("Alright, Alright, Alright") and a number five hit ("Lady Rose"), plus other top 20, top 30 and top 40 UK hits, along with success in other territories. According to its Wikipedia entry, "In The Summertime" became one of the best-selling singles of all time, eventually selling 30 million copies. So while not big-league pop rockers, Mungo Jerry can hardly be described as "very minor and inconsequential". On another matter, in the formation section of this entry, there's mention that the band "landed a regular slot at the Master Robert Motel in Osterley, Middlesex". Very small point, but the Master Robert Motel (a local landmark for decades) is no more. It was rebuilt in 2019 as an Ibis Styles hotel. (Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).https://www.thecaterer.com/news/hotel/hounslows-master-robert-hotel-to-relaunch-as-ibis-styles-london-heathrow-airport-eastCite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).).Paul Strange (talk) 12:31, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nonesense?

No chart hit has had more than 13 words in the title, so "You Don't Have to Be in the Army to Fight in the War" gave Mungo Jerry another hit.

This sentence doesn't make any sense! It seems to be saying that this record was a hit BECAUSE it has 13 words in the title! 208.81.28.204 (talk) 19:26, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it does not read correctly. I suspect it did at sometime in the past, but subsequent re-editing may have introduced the illogical statement. Be bold and re-edit the sentence would be my advice. Whilst on this point though, the statement in the first part of the sentence, really does need a source. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:15, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Long John Baldry

The text suggests that he/they performed with Long John Baldry in 2006. However, according to the article on Long John Baldry, he died in 2005. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 621PWC (talk • contribs) 17:48, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Former bassist John Godfrey has reportedly died

At least according to the band's twitter feed[2] which is linked from their webpage.[3] However, this was only a retweet,[4] so it's thin sourcing. -- Kendrick7^talk 00:44, 6 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Opening sentence

"Mungo Jerry are a British rock group" - I think that should be "Mungo Jerry is a British rock group". Are represents a plural of something, but a represents the singular form. The sentence mixes grammatical number. A group is a single entity, comprising a plurality of elements. A group is a singular noun. "The Grateful Dead is an American rock group...", "The Boy Scouts is an international group..." etc. "Before you are a group of apples" is wrong. That should be "Before you is a group of apples." giggle (talk) 15:51, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Gregory.george.lewis: This is a variation between British and American English; see here. Karst (talk) 16:03, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pointless Byron Contostavlos link

This link simply brings us back to the very same article, and tells us nothing more about Byron Contostavlos - so we can keep going round in circles forever! 85.0.29.130 (talk) 20:47, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I've removed three circular links from thie article. If you find any more, elsewhere, please remove them. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:50, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Raymond?

I could not find any mention of Paul Raymond ever being a member of Mungo Jerry in the stated AllMusic reference. Nor does Paul Raymond's page state he was ever a member. Did I miss it? 172.58.35.48 (talk) 05:52, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hollywood Festival

It would be nice if someone could find a reference to what actually happened at the Festival. They were unknown to most of the crowd when they came on stage but when they ended their set the audience woudldn't stop calling for more. The organisers first tried to calm things down saying Ginger Baker's Airforce was on next. Cue shouts of Fuck off Ginger etc. It was only then that the organisers promised the crowd that they'd play again on the Sunday.

The New Beatles

Ah yes, Mungo Jerry. And when ‘In The Summertime’ appeared, they were proclaimed as ‘The New Beatles’, meaning that they’d replace the Fabs in number and quality of hits, though presumably not in richness of lore. I lost count of the number of bands back then that were going to be ‘The New Beatles’. I came here to see if these guys were still around. Other contenders for Fabdom sank without trace. 2001:8003:2341:5400:F4FE:6D57:80A0:2922 (talk) 20:06, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Have a Whiff on Me

I think the section about Have A Whiff On Me is incorrect. Firstly, the traditional song is "Have a Drink on Me", which Ray Dorset modified to "Have a Whiff on Me", which is a reference to cannabis smoking, not cocaine. Also the original studio version says "Got a little woman ten feet tall, smokes in the kitchen, smokes in the hall - hey hey, baby, have a whiff on me - grass that is!" Ray couldn't have spelled it out any more clearly. 82.12.206.210 (talk) 18:45, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]