Talk:Mrs. Miniver

Military history: War films / British / European / World War II C‑class

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history

C

This article has been rated as C-class on the project's quality scale.

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	War films task force
	British military history task force
	European military history task force
	World War II task force

Film: Documentary / War / American

	Film portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Film. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see lists of open tasks and regional and topical task forces. To use this banner, please refer to the documentation. To improve this article, please refer to the guidelines.FilmWikipedia:WikiProject FilmTemplate:WikiProject Filmfilm
	This article is supported by the Documentary films task force.
	This article is supported by the War films task force.
	This article is supported by the American cinema task force.

United States: Cinema Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Film portal This article is supported by WikiProject Film - American cinema task force.

Library of Congress Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Library of Congress, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Library of Congress on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Library of CongressWikipedia:WikiProject Library of CongressTemplate:WikiProject Library of CongressLibrary of Congress
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the importance scale.

Untitled

I saw this excellent movie for the first time the other night on TCM. However, I was startled by the similarity of the "flower show" subplot to a subplot in the recent PBS/BBC Masterpiece Theater production of "Downton Abbey."FLAHAM (talk) 00:19, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spoiler in the introductory paragraph

"And loses her daughter-in-law as a casualty" is a spoiler, since it happens very near the end of the film. I think someone should either remove it or change it to say something else. Lionboy-Renae (talk) 04:58, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The general guideline is that articles do not omit information on that ground. See WP:SPOILER. "It is not acceptable to delete information from an article because you think it spoils the plot." William Avery (talk) 06:33, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How much is the film based on the book by Jan Struther?

The statement in the lead section that the film is "based on" the book of the same name by Jan Struther is misleading. The book, to explain to anyone who has not read it, is a series of anecdotal essays which reads like a diary, full of lively interactions between family and friends, and reflections on how life was for them all at that time, the year before the outbreak of World War II. According to the information on the back cover, the book is a compendium of the series of essays published as a column by "Mrs Miniver" in The Times before the War. Yes, in the book there is shown the shadows of danger, mild experience of shortages, and gas masks, the word JEWS significant on a newspaper board, but the reality of the air-raids and the fighter planes and Dunkirk and personal loss, none of that had arrived and does not appear in the book. However, Valerie Grove, in her introduction to Mrs Miniver explains that Jan Struther, when she was in America, did help in the film. The screenplay does not follow any narrative in the book: it (almost) the same family, the screenplay rather continues as a sequel to where the book ended. A small change to the lead section will correct the impression it gives, and I shall try to think of something unless someone else can. Thank you. P0mbal (talk) 22:46, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 May 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved as discussed, though Mrs. Miniver will be oved to Mrs. Miniver (character). Primefac (talk) 16:18, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mrs. Miniver (film) → Mrs. Miniver
Mrs. Miniver → Mrs. Miniver (book)

– The film won the Best Picture Academy Award and has continued in culture and public consciousness as one of the best-remembered films of its era. The book (or, more precisely, the series of essays — see directly above — "How much is the film based on the book by Jan Struther?") was popular during the war, but has not remained in print and is little known in the 21st century. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 20:43, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support second and oppose first 73.154.31.58 (talk) 16:53, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support both. This is an extremely significant film. The book on which it is based, the newspaper columns which became the book, and the character of the same name on which they centre are now mainly of interest because of the film. Andrewa (talk) 23:14, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support: the film is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC in a WP:TWODABS situation. It receives 93% of the page view traffic,[1] and is the version that is the most historically significant today, having received multiple Oscars and many other awards and continuing to be regarded as a historically important film. In fact, part of the reason the film was and remains so successful are the changes the film made to its source material. However, I believe Mrs. Miniver should move to Mrs. Minaver (character). The "(book)" disambiguation is not favored by WP:NCBOOK anyway, but in this case the article discusses not just the novel but the character, the newspaper articles, and radio and TV adaptations as well.--Cúchullain ^t/c 14:22, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support first move; Move to Mrs. Miniver (character) for the second, per Cúchullain. —BarrelProof (talk) 17:54, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Having submitted the nomination, I agree with Cúchullain's argument that Mrs. Miniver (character) would be a more apt form than Mrs. Miniver (book). —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 01:50, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Mrs. Miniver. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090827005730/http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/m/mrs-miniver-script-transcript-greer.html to http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/m/mrs-miniver-script-transcript-greer.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 18:28, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]