Talk:Monogatari (series)

Infobox 3 ONA thing

Now just to be clear, I am going to formally write it out so I can point to it later. The reason why edits like [1] make no sense is because the 3 ONAs in question are clearly listed not 2 boxes underneath that box, so it is excessive and redundant to tell the reader that there are 3 ONAs when they can clearly see them 2 boxes below. Furthermore, it is entirely misleading to write "3 ONAs" there, since that might lead an uninformed reader to believe that there were 3 more ONAs on top of the 3 listed in the box already clearly marked "Original net animation". The Bakemonogatari series is split into 2 boxes because the first 12 were aired on TV, and the last three were ONAs. It is not hard for anyone to see that there were 3 more ONAs released a few months after the TV series ended, hence why listing the episodes as "12 + 3 ONAs" is unnecessary, and is also why the hidden note "<!-- The three remaining episodes are covered below -->" was placed there so this sort of thing wouldn't happen.--十八 08:19, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Not a light novel.

Wikipedia calling it a light novel has caused the majority of the english-speaking internet to call it a light novel. But it's not a light novel. 24.194.51.254 (talk) 03:20, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Even the Japanese wiki categorizes the series under Japanese light novels (it's the first one listed under も).--十八 06:06, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

It's not published under a light novel label and lacks the density of illustrations typical of light novels. What, exactly, is the reason that it's considered a light novel? 24.194.51.254 (talk) 06:05, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Illustrations isn't want defines a light novel. What defines a light novel are the targeted demographic, the complexity of the kanji, and the length. Basically it is the Japanese term for young adult novel. —Farix (t | c) 12:03, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Where are target demographic, kanji usage, and length the benchmarks for what defines a light novel? As with any category of media, fuzziness exists at the edges, but I fail to see how monogatari fits into the classification you just gave. There are dedicated light novel labels, and if a fringe work appeared on one of them I would certainly go along with calling it a light novel, but that's absolutely not the case for monogatari. Giving fuzzy categorizations in lieu of unarguable broader ones is very unencyclopedic. 24.194.51.254 (talk) 00:22, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

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Production

I translated from the original article in Japanese. Crosswrm (talk) 05:09, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Goszei

• tentatively removing this machine-translated (?) section

I mean, sure, I started translating it using DeepL but I did all I could to get the meaning of the sentences right (using different machine translators and Japanese dictionary) and putting in the effort of writing the text to sound right in English to at least be kept until someone else could rework on it.

• the info about illustrations being added appears in the section below

They serve different purposes. The section below says that Vofan did the illustrations and not that was just "added". And the purpose of that in the "Production" section:

• and I have no idea what the other parts are trying to say

Of course, it concerns me that you didn't understand it, but I don't get what you didn't understand. Nisio technically don't write "light novels" yet his first series was considered to be part of the so-called "light novel genre" (and the explanation is linked if someone else is ignorant of that). So he decided to try writing a "light novel" without the key-feature that defines them: illustrations, but because of the decision that illustrations would be included in the volume release, he changed the direction of the story. Another change was the anime adaptation and the tone shift of the Kizu's and Nise's novels. I read those novels (and there's an interview that Nisio says how the Bake adaptation made a "revolution" on his writing career) so I can understand the tone shift in the story, but the phrasing is that hard to understand? Crosswrm (talk) 00:32, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

I have introduced a revised version of the text, applying a copyedit and cutting down the extraneous statements that made it difficult to read before. I apologize for cutting it entirely at first, that was a bit of a knee-jerk reaction. — Goszei (talk) 00:52, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

setting

I read the entire section labeled setting and there isn't a single indication that this takes place on earth or on a space colony or in the afterlife. It sounds like they're at a school. Revise or rename. 2603:3017:205:1200:4185:2274:5251:1211 (talk) 15:38, 15 April 2024 (UTC)