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Requested move 25 January 2018

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 20:03, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Monk's House → Monks House – This is the official name of the house, see britishlistedbuildings.co.uk. This is also confirmed on the Royal Mail site royalmail.com. Simply type in "Monk's House Rodmell" in the search tool, and the address is shown as: Monks House, The Street, Rodmell, LEWES BN7 3HF SethWhales^talk 08:58, 25 January 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. –Ammarpad (talk) 09:42, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Sam Sailor 13:32, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The article previously had Monk's House until it was changed throughout today in Special:Diff/812297778/822255350. TNT lists it as Monk's House. Sam Sailor 13:38, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose. Monks House in book sources seems to often pop up in regards to a manuscript collection of notes and letters housed at the Sussex University Library called the "Monks House Papers". It is in some cases also used in sources as the name of the house, such as in
- G. Potts; L. Shahriari (10 February 2010). Virginia Woolf's Bloomsbury, Volume 1: Aesthetic Theory and Literary Practice. Palgrave Macmillan UK. pp. 4–. ISBN 978-0-230-25130-4. The mother had told Virginia that she mentioned her son to Sir Henry Wood, the famous conductor of the period. Later, when the Easedales came to tea at Monks House, Virginia announced to the assembled party – 'Mrs Easedale is the bravest woman I know – she went into a big restaurant straight up to Sir Henry who was surrounded by a crowd of ladies and said "Sir Henry my son is a genius!", and
- Holly Henry (27 February 2003). Virginia Woolf and the Discourse of Science: The Aesthetics of Astronomy. Cambridge University Press. pp. 57–. ISBN 978-0-521-81297-9. As Judith Killen notes, that same year Woolf obtained her own telescope, actually from Williamson, and had it set up at Monks House, the Woolfs' summer home ..., and
- Maxwell Bennett (12 January 2013). Virginia Woolf and Neuropsychiatry. Springer Science & Business Media. pp. 36–. ISBN 978-94-007-5748-6. Virginia notes in here diaries (Woolf 1939, p. 124) that by the 18th August in that year German raider aircraft were flying to their targets so close to her country house on the east coast, the so-called Monks House, that while she was there 'they brushed the trees at the gate'.,

and several more could be quoted. But among them I find none that uses Monks House in the title.

There seems to be far more widespread use of the Saxon genitive Monk's House when speaking about the house, e.g. in the title:

Caroline Zoob (1 November 2013). Virginia Woolf's Garden: The Story of the Garden at Monk's House. Jacqui Small. ISBN 978-1-909342-13-2.
Nuala Hancock (27 June 2012). Charleston and Monk's House: The Intimate House Museums of Virginia Woolf and Vanessa Bell: The Intimate House Museums of Virginia Woolf and Vanessa Bell. Edinburgh University Press. ISBN 978-0-7486-4674-6.
Richard Shone (October 2006). Virginia Woolf and Monk's House. National Trust. ISBN 978-1-84359-205-1.
Katherine Hill-Miller (January 2001). From the Lighthouse to Monk's House: A Guide to Virginia Woolf's Literary Landscapes. Duckworth. ISBN 978-0-7156-2995-6.

as well as dozens if not hundreds of book hits that have Monk's House in the text.

Add to this that the National Trust lists it as Monk's House, and that the sign at the house itself says Monk's House (photo), then I do not think we should move the article from its current title. I have reverted the bold changes in the article back to "Monk's House".

Sam Sailor 15:42, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Sam Sailor's in-depth comment and research (will keep watch if someone comes by with better reasoning). Randy Kryn (talk) 16:53, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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