Talk:Money (The Drums song)

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Date	Process	Result
October 24, 2023	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 29, 2023.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the song "Money" by the Drums was certified gold by the RIAA over a decade after its initial release?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Evrik (talk) 02:38, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that in the music video for "Money" by the Drums, frontman Jonathan Pierce spys on two women?~~ Source: https://www.nme.com/news/music/the-drums-21-1279649
Alt1... that the song "Money" by the Drums was certified gold by the RIAA over a decade after its initial release? Source: https://www.anti.com/news/the-drums-return-with-new-single-i-want-it-all/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ed Bradley

Created by Sahaib (talk). Self-nominated at 23:00, 2 July 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Money (The Drums song); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Review by Tbhotch

General eligibility:

New enough:
Long enough:
Other problems:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Other problems:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: A former redirect transformed into an article. It is well-sourced and it satisfied the DYK criteria. The hook, however, is not hooky. Even though it is sourced, it misses the "interesting to a broad audience" factor. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 03:00, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Tbhotch: I have added a hook. Sahaib (talk) 05:43, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It needs to be mentioned in the article. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 14:39, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Tbhotch: done. Sahaib (talk) 17:56, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alt1 is good to go. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 04:41, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Money (The Drums song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 08:02, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will start on this right away; one thing I can see from the get go is the lead's too short. --K. Peake 08:02, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section):

b. (citations to reliable sources):

c. (OR):

d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects):

b. (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

Infobox and lead

The recording year needs to be directly sourced in the body, as does the genre Removed by Vaughan J.
Audio sample should be in the body instead of infobox Removed by Vaughan J.
Change the first sentence to mentioning it is "from their second studio album, Portamento (2011)." and keep the lead single release later on Partly done by Vaughan J.
This lead should say it was the album's lead single in release part, also add comp/lyrics, critical reception, commercial and promotion that was done and TikTok appearance Done by Vaughan J.
You can keep the bonus track part in the new single sentence Done by Vaughan J.

Hey Kyle! I'm not the nominator, but I managed to fix the lead by a lot! Have a look and see if it's looking okay, and see if there are any changes. — VAUGHAN J. (TALK) 07:09, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is looking a lot better, though the second album part should be mentioned in the first sentence for a proper introduction and move commercial to being before TikTok. --K. Peake 20:45, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done and dusted. How does it look now? — VAUGHAN J. (TALK) 06:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Background and lyrics

Quote box looks good, apart from Jonathan Pierce's full name should be used
"The song was their second single" → "The song was the Drums' second single"
Wikilink as synthesizers
"in Pierce's apartment as well as" → "in Frontman Jonathan Pierce's apartment, as well as" and use Pierce only on the second occasion instead of here
You need to add info about the comp too already using this that mentions guitar for starters; check more sources about song and album too
"is mostly sincere."" → "is mostly sincere"." per MOS:QUOTE

Release and promotion

Img looks good!
"from their second" → "from the Drums' second"
Pipe CD to Compact disc, however this release is not sourced at all
Concurrently is not an appropriate term if these releases were around a month apart
"the Lexington and XOYO" → "the Lexington, and XOYO"
Mention that the last two performances were in 2011 too

Music video

Remove overly obvious wikilink on Los Angeles
"At the time the band were" → "At the time, the Drums were"
Remove overly obvious wikilink on New York
"with the lyric" → "with the line"

Reception

Merge this and the below section, keeping this title
"4 out of 5 stars saying it" → "four out of five stars, saying it" per MOS:NUM
"and "Best Friend" from their" → "and "Best Friend" from the Drum's" and add the year of this album

Commercial performance

Make this all one para and at the end of the above section
Introduce the Mexico Ingles Airplay chart as being Billboard
Mention for the resurgence that this included a growth in streams
"The song was certified gold" → "It was certified gold" and mention this was in the United States

Track listing

Good

Charts

Good

Certifications

See MOS:TABLECAPTION

Release history

Various is not sourced nor is CD single at all

References

Copyvio score looks good at 35.6%
Cite Exclaim! as work/website instead on ref 2
Ditto for Under the Radar on ref 3
Cite iTunes Store on ref 9 instead, as publisher and with the wikilink
Cite Digital Spy as publisher instead on ref 12
Cite Official Charts Company as publisher instead with the wikilink on ref 15
Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 19 and cite Anti- as publisher instead

Final comments and verdict

On hold until all of the issues are fixed; sorry it took two days for this. --K. Peake 20:45, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging the nominator: @Sahaib since they haven't said anything yet. VAUGHAN J. (TALK) 10:21, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Vaughan J.: I have done most of the changes. Sahaib (talk) 11:37, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging reviewer @Kyle Peake, so they can inform me of any changes that have not been done or should be done. Sahaib (talk) 20:42, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sahaib I have been busy but still ready to come on whenever notified, some changes remain starting with the lead where direct quotes should not be used and the music video part should come after the critical reception. Also, merge the critical and commercial performances into one section and add the US as being where the song was certified gold by the RIAA. --K. Peake 07:48, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kyle Peake: Not the nominator, but letting you know that everything has been fixed. — VAUGHAN J. (TALK) 05:28, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Pass now, I copy edited the lead quickly but the rest was already fine! --K. Peake 08:17, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]