Talk:Miss Universe 2024

Miss Universe Togo

@Urboyatwiki @LousPlushies, please cite your sources here, showing the confirmation of Togo's unparticipation. I've been looking through multiple sources and social media platforms, and still couldn't find anything related to Togo's refusal of participation. If you're basing on MissUUpdates on Instagram, please comprehend the captions even more. I've been through that page, and found nothing except a post confirming Togo's participation. Might as well look at Miss Univers Togo and look at their latest post. Please try to comprehend the posts because I am tired of looking for proof that Togo is not competing this year. Maybe these will settle things up and won't result to an edit war in the future. Thank you! LikeRealTimes (talk) 02:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Might as well ping @Markeuie, @Allyriana000 @Milesq for their opinions. LikeRealTimes (talk) 02:16, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Regarding that, although there were claims of them not having the license (posted in their stories that expire on 24 hours), at the end of the day its still a claim unless with more tangible proof. And a single blogger saying that a certain country is not participating isn't completely enough since the poster doesn't even have the sole authority to say which countries should join or not. Since with the available public info we have right now she's crowned as Miss Universe Togo, I would say that shall stay that way until further notice since we can always remove her from the list if more information or proof debunking her participation arises. Thank you and good day. Milesq (talk) 02:36, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Organisation has NOT confirmed Togo’s participation in MU24 so, technically, should not be listed until it IS confirmed! Heidi bradshaw (talk) 20:07, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Should be done the same thing to Montenegro and Bonaire then. MUO haven't announced their participation, right? LikeRealTimes (talk) 01:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Remember, it is not everytime MUO have to announce the participation of every new country. LikeRealTimes (talk) 01:08, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

@Gvf23, might as well explain? LikeRealTimes (talk) 03:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

This user @Gvf23 keeps on undoing my edit on the main article without correct understanding from the talk page. I am also careful not to cause an edit war between this user, as it would lead to ruining my reputation. I think he's somehow joining the bandwagon for deleting Togo's representation. LikeRealTimes (talk) 03:12, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Apparently, the participation of the country was confirmed to be false news. It was observed that the organization itself lacks preperation of the finale venue and time to crown its delegate and. Not to mention the quality of the candidates and the visual graphics in its social media accounts (e.g. their profile name/picture Miss "Univers" Togo, and the introduction videos of eack candidates.) Also to add, the rumored winner Débora Agbawudzo haven't updated her social media accounts as the winner of the national pageant, which adds up to the issue whether Togo is legitimate or is taking their own participation. Some people have contacted or messaged the Miss Universe Organization about this for them to take action to this incident, but for now we'll consider Togo's rights for participation in the Miss Universe 2024 competition, as well as the winner and the organization Miss Univers To go, hoaxes. With that, I'll ask every editors (with or without user accounts; just IP numbers) that re-adding the country in every part of the article is STRICTLY PROHIBITED until the issue is resolved, whether Togo's participation is confirmed or a false accusation by Togolese businessmen. Thank you! LikeRealTimes (talk) 13:17, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

@Milesq, @Allyriana000, @Bri, @Heidi bradshaw, @Zeodswk, @Markeuie, @Sciencefish, @Ayocarty, @Kannweame7961, and @Japemizen627, please be aware. Thank you everyone! LikeRealTimes (talk) 13:21, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

I always double and triple check my sources when I edit on pageants, especially if I watch it live. Thankyou for your help too! Heidi bradshaw (talk) 16:43, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Forgot to mention the following: @Editscontent2.9 and @Gvf23. LikeRealTimes (talk) 13:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

There is no issue other than that a WP:RELIABLE source needs to be provided. Note these organisations (such as MUO) are primary sources and Wikipedia articles should be based mainly on reliable secondary sources, per WP:RSPRIMARY. This is an encyclopaedia not the repository of publicity announcement's of any organisation Sciencefish (talk) 14:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss Uzbekistan and Miss Moldova

Uzbekistan y Moldova debut at Miss Universe in Mexico Miss Uzbekistan is in August 30, 2024 190.150.146.185 (talk) 07:55, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

And where can we see that information? Catia108 (talk) 12:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss Unvuerse Brazil 2024

The coronation night is on 19 September. Confirmed by their oficial instagram page (missuniversebrasiloficial) Catia108 (talk) 12:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

"According to Instagram"

@LikeRealTimes@Allyriana000 I have noticed in recently that certain information regarding participating countries have been added more frequently by some users which are allegedly according to Instagram. All they have is hearsay yet they are quite insistent on putting as they think its the "real info". How can we address this without resulting in an edit war? I do think its due to wanting to contribute but compromises the article's credibility and encyclopedic value via WP:V. Milesq (talk) 19:13, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Well, putting warnings at the infobox and the SoP section was in my mind, but it seems more like a threat than a warning. Speaking of Instagram, yeah, Instagram is not the right place to gather data. I mostly fact check every MU account on the social media app, and sometimes I wait for the MUO to announce them. But on some cases, I dig deeper through news outlets and external articles to find sources of certain countries (e.g. Gibraltar and Bonaire). So the conclusion is, it's okay to look at Instagram for PROOF only, but don't just add them like they're reliable sources amidst the WP:V policy. LikeRealTimes (talk) 02:04, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

I agree with @LikeRealTimes, however there are some countries which are already confirmed by Miss Universe (through their National director posts) so those could be deemed as realiable. We should still used secondary sources as they are more reliable and signifies notability. Instagram is also not a good source as some accounts may be fakes. Allyriana000 (talk) 02:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@LikeRealTimes I did a check on one user's contributions and they seem to have a habit of replacing already reliable sources into Instagram ones as seen on Miss USA 2024. I did try to notify about their behavior on their talk page already and i hope they'll take it positively. Milesq (talk) 04:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Editing contestants

I need some help with editing the structure of the names and countries and hometowns of the contestants... What I mean by that is that if you go to MU2023 and then go to contestants, you'll see the name, country etc... everything small like very thin in every contestant. You know what I mean? Catia108 (talk) 14:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Kosovo Age

Please, can someone change the Moss Universe Kosovo age, she is 36 not 26 and I have no rights to edit the page. Source: https://prive.al/miss-universe-kosova-36-vjece-dhe-flet-gjashte-gjuhe/ 81.26.207.42 (talk) 09:09, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Naming policy problem

At this point this has become an annual problem, why do some editors (old and new) fail to understand or follow the set guidelines by WP:COMMONNAME? It has been said time and time again not to change it because that's what the organization uses but still editors put it that way for some reason. I already put a reminder just in case. Milesq (talk) 17:01, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Moldova

Moldova is now have a representative candidate post on Instagram & TikTok the name is Sabrina Skk, she is the first ever Miss Universe Moldova 2024🇲🇩 180.195.116.113 (talk) 11:29, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Until Miss Universe or the Miss Universe Moldova Organization has released their national director/candidate, no Moldovan candidate will be added. We must have reliable references first. Allyriana000 (talk) 11:37, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Given the recent incident of Miss Saudi Arabia, its better to wait for an official announcement. Milesq (talk) 12:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Notes added to contestant section

Should a "notes" section be added to the contestant section for Miss Universe 2024?  Past national titles of major pageants could be listed here, as well as other noteworthy contributions.  Miss Teen USA 2024 and Miss USA 2024 have this so wondering if uniformity should be kept or do we think it's not a big deal? Molliward99 (talk) 17:01, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

No, this is trivial information and I don't think any pageant article should have this. The Selection of Participants and Debuts, returns, and withdrawals sections were added years ago to replace a Notes section because writing this in prose was more encyclopedic than a list of random facts. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 17:11, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss Gambia 2023-24

The newly crowned Miss Universe Gambia is Glorious Haddijatou Njie and Gambia returns to participate at 73rd Miss Universe Competition.

See the Miss Gambia Wikipedia. 112.198.209.49 (talk) 12:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Pakistan, Serbia, Bahrain pageants

Can someone add Pakistan, Serbia & Bahrain in the upcoming national pageants to July 2024? Their organization announced that their finals will be in July 2024 but they still don't have a certain date. Catia108 (talk) 09:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

A proper source needs to be provided first before adding it (WP:PROVEIT). Only then it can be added into the list. Milesq (talk) 16:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Miss Norway 2024

the finale date coronation night of Norway in upcoming August 11 2024.👑🇸🇯 112.198.207.44 (talk) 09:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Miss Maldives & Azerbaijan

Maldives is all set to debut in the upcoming 73rd Miss Universe Competition.🇲🇻

Azerbaijan is all set to return in the upcoming 73rd Miss Universe Competition, last competed in 2013.🇦🇿 112.198.207.44 (talk) 09:19, 6 July 2024 (UTC)