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A fact from Miles Rock appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 December 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Miles Rock served as chief of the commission that determined the disputed Guatemala–Mexico border?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Miles Rock.

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 17:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... ~~that Miles Rock, one of the first graduates of Lehigh University in 1869, helped determine the Guatemala–Mexico border?~~

Source: https://www.jstor.org/stable/1628639

Page 979, "he graduated as Civil Engineer with the first class of Lehigh in 1869". Page 979, "he served as Chief of the Guatemala Boundary Commission, charged

with the duty of determining and locating the disputed frontier between Guatemala and Mexico"

- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Peel's Cut
- Comment: Just created the article, fascinating individual, will try to get a photo uploaded... Also, I did a QPQ because I have a bunch of DYK's from a few years ago

Created by Dmadeo (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

dm (talk) 23:44, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I will take this review. Dwkaminski (talk) 21:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Earwig's copyvio detector shows 11.5% - violation unlikely. No qpq required but still did one - Bravo! I recommend to remove Lehigh University from the hook. Maybe a connection between his name (Rock) and being a geologist? "Miles Rock, a geologist, helped determine the border between Guatemala and Mexico"? Dwkaminski (talk) 21:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dmadeo: I listed the review as "maybe". Take a look and let me know if you have any questions. Dwkaminski (talk) 22:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Dwkaminski: Thanks for the review! I'm just amazed he goes from the Civil War to the first class at Lehigh (bias: I went there) to helping found an observatory in Argentina to defining the boundary of two countries in really rough terrain without just saying it was the middle of a river. He wasn't "just" a geologist, like many engineers and scientists in that time, he was many things. Plus, his descendants gave a treasure trove of materials to Lehigh which is why they are having exhibitions, videos, etc. Having said all that, perhaps one of the the following would be a good hook?
- Alt 1 ... ~~that Miles Rock, a geologist and astronomer, helped determine the Guatemala–Mexico border between 1883 and 1898?~~
- Alt 2 ... that Miles Rock, a geologist and astronomer in the first class of Lehigh University, helped found Observatorio Astronómico de Córdoba in Argentina, was part of the Wheeler Expedition, and finalized the Guatemala–Mexico border between 1883 and 1898?

@Dmadeo: ALT2 is a bit too much. How about ALT1a ...that Miles Rock served as Chief of the Guatemala Boundary Commission that determined the disputed Guatemala-Mexico border?
- @Dwkaminski: (several tries later) Sold! And thank you for your edits to the article, including finding new references. Much appreciated. dm (talk) 18:45, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Approving ALT1a ...that Miles Rock served as Chief of the Guatemala Boundary Commission that determined the disputed Guatemala-Mexico border? Dwkaminski (talk) 19:23, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]