Talk:Michael Pineda

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April 14, 2012	Good article nominee	Listed

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Michael Pineda's (pictured) fastball averaged 94.7 miles per hour (152.4 km/h) in 2011, leading Major League Baseball rookies with at least 100 innings pitched?

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Trade

Pineda was traded to New York Yankees today.--Inefable001 (talk) 01:54, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. The Mariners have reportedly agreed to trade Pineda today. The deal, if it's really happening (nobody has confirmed this), likely won't happen until next week because all involved players will need to take and pass physical examinations. A physical examination derailed the Yankees trade of Montero for Cliff Lee last year. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:55, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, Thank you for the explication. I just noticed.--Inefable001 (talk) 02:13, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:25, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Resolute (talk · contribs) 02:02, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

General

Images are good
- Though not required for GA, alternative text for the images would be beneficial
Sources look good
- Spotcheck of sources shows no issue with close paraphrasing
  - Reply I'll certainly add alt text.

Is there anything that can be said about his personal life? Where he grew up, family, was he involved in any sort of team/charitable causes, etc?
- Reply Sadly, not much. This is about as much as I can find. I added a short section on his personal life based on it.

Lead

"...the highest among MLB rookies with at least 100 innings pitched.[1] and fourth overall in MLB.[2]" - Obviously that period was supposed to be a comma.
- Reply Yes, indeed.

Minor leagues

"...and was named Mariners Minor League Pitcher of the Year." - and he was named. Also, specify that this was a team award. Tacked onto the other award, it is implied that Baseball America named him Seattle's minor league pitcher of the year.
Need a citation for his statistical accomplishments in 2009
"...Baseball America again named Pineda the Mariners' Minor League Pitcher of the Year in 2010" - source does not say Baseball America named him pitcher of the year. States it was a team award?
- Reply First item clarified, and you're right on the second. My bad.

Seattle Mariners

"He ended his first month in the majors with a 4–1 record and a sparkling 2.01 ERA..." - Avoid weasel words. "Sparkling" is not encyclopedic. Also, that entire line is one heck of a run-on sentence.
The all-star game paragraph needs a little re-work. You note he was named and why, then highlight his season stats to that point, then discuss a seemingly random single inning of work. I was a little confused for a moment before realizing you were talking about the All-Star game again.
"He recorded no wins in his final seven starts over the final two months of the year.." - final... final. Can you change up the wording a bit?
- Reply I doubt I wrote "sparkling", but I'm surprised I didn't take it out before. Run-on cut in two. Clarified that the inning was ASG. Changed the second "final" to "last", I hope that suffices.

New York Yankees

Trades are important enough that I like to include the dates. Not a requirement, just a suggestion.
The date he went on the DL, however, is not. I might suggest rewording as "Pineda was placed on the 15-day disable list and missed the start of the season with tendinitis in his right shoulder."
- Reply Date of the trade added, date of the DL removed.

Overall

Looking good, but a few fixes, and if available, a little personal life-expansion would make this article better. Placing on hold for now. Regards, Resolute 02:02, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Great, I'll do this tomorrow. I'm not sure how much personal life stuff is available (I didn't see any when I wrote this up in February), but I'll look again. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:31, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, I think. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yup, looks good to me. Congrats! Reso lute 16:42, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tilly?

Isn't Piñeda's name spelled with a tilly (~)? I had always thought so. Especially since it's pronounced (pin-YAY-da) and not (pin-EH-da).Mfribbs ^Talk 13:08, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've always wondered that myself, but I haven't seen any evidence of it. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:23, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2014 or 2012

I have tried to change 2014-present to 2012-present as Pineda's tenure with the Yankees. However, it got reverted. The reason behind it was that he never actually pitched for the MLB team until 2014. But, should that matter? He was still associated and "owned" by them. And he did pitch for their minor league team in 2013, so it could at least be 2013-present. It just seems inconsistent. Because by that logic, if a player was traded to a team and never played with them (due to injuries) because they retired two years after they got traded, they wouldn't "technically" ever had been with the team. So it doesn't make any sense to do 2014 instead of 2012. Mfribbs ^Talk 12:57, 26 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Generally speaking, those years only go for when a player was on the active roster, and Pineda wasn't on the Yankees' active roster in 2012 or 2013. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:57, 26 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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