Talk:Michael Head (musician)

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Requested move 27 August 2018

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The result of the move request was: Moved Mick Head → Michael Head (musician); Michael Head (composer) not moved; dab page created at the base title. I gather Mick Head should redirect to the musician, as there is no evidence that the composer goes by "Mick" No such user (talk) 09:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Mick Head → ?
Michael Head (composer) → ?

– both are composers/songwriters and singers. Mick prefers to go by "Michael", per his website and this edit. – wbm1058 (talk) 09:57, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

According to the article the first ("Mick") is a singer-songwriter (and musician, though it's hard to be a singer-songwriter without being a musician); the second ("Michael") was a composer. So what is wrong with simply moving Mick to Michael Head (singer-songwriter)? Imaginatorium (talk) 10:54, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That would be fine, I suppose. Noting that this is a fairly common parenthetical disambiguator, though there are a few variants (slash or comma instead of a hyphen or dash). wbm1058 (talk) 11:46, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support first Michael Head (musician) but Oppose second the 2nd is a composer the first isn't In ictu oculi (talk) 20:26, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: But surely both are musicians, whereas "singer-songwriter" would actually make the disambiguation? Imaginatorium (talk) 02:40, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I see, we make a distinction between a composer and a songwriter. I support Michael Head (musician) because "musician" is more concise than "singer-songwriter" and agree that the second doesn't really need to move. wbm1058 (talk) 18:39, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Yes, "musician" is 8 letters, and "singer-songwriter" is 17 characters including a hyphen. But "musician" does not distinguish the Michael Heads, because both are musicians. (Note that I didn't come up with "singer-songwriter", I simply looked at the WP article to see how he was described.) Imaginatorium (talk) 05:33, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mick Head to Michael Head (musician) is all that's needed here I think, We can use hatnotes to point readers to the other article if they end up at the wrong one. --Michig (talk) 19:07, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The other Michael Head (musician)

This page was moved, and the "musician" label used as a disambiguation. Trouble is, there is another Michael Head (musician), who is more precisely described as a composer. The DAB page for Michael Head describes the other one as a "composer", and describes this one as an "English singer-songwriter". So the "musician" label fails as a disambiguation. No-one presented a coherent argument why "Michael Head (musician)" was better than "Michael Head (singer-songwriter)"; I don't want to start a move battle, but request suggestions. I thought at minimum of a "See also" note at the top, but cannot see quite how to word it. "For the composer, see Michael Head (composer)" doesn't seem quite right, because after all, a singer-songwriter is a sort of composer. "For the Michael Head musician who is not a singer-songwriter..." is even worse. Imaginatorium (talk) 15:22, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]