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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk21:59, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: This is my first DYK nomination, please be nice :) Would welcome any rephrasing, might be a bit clunky right now.

Created by Pinktoebeans (talk). Self-nominated at 14:00, 8 August 2021 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough and well sourced. Earwig is not picking up any copyvio either. QPQ is not needed for a first time DYK nomination. I'm not so sure about the hook's source though, since the Wikipedia page for Apple Daily calls it a tabloid. If there's any chance that it's just tabloid conjecture that Miao Poya and Lin Ying-meng were in a relationship, we shouldn't put it on the front page. This needs either a different hook or a better source. I'm proposing an alt hook below. BuySomeApples (talk) 06:06, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

re ALT1 - nice hook and based on refs. The article didn't quite say this so I changed it to reflect the ref. Victuallers (talk) 09:17, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Victuallers:! Which hook did you change btw? They both look the same to me but I might have missed something. BuySomeApples (talk) 20:13, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Pinktoebeans: ALT2 looks great! I'm happy with both alternate hooks, and striking out ALT0. Also, I removed the bit about Lin Ying-meng from the article so that it will meet DYK requirements (it can always be put back in if a better source for it pops up in the future). BuySomeApples (talk) 20:13, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I just need another reviewer to go over these and make sure everything's as it should be. BuySomeApples (talk) 20:46, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2 is reffed with a source that is good enough. @BuySomeApples: - you asked above which hook I changed - I didn't I changed the article. Victuallers (talk) 17:58, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oh that makes sense @Victuallers: I've been a little distracted over the past couple days. If the nom and alt hooks look good to you, would you mind finishing this review? (apparently I can't if I propose an alt hook) BuySomeApples (talk) 19:24, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oh that's not my understanding @BuySomeApples:. You can finesse a hook but you cannot approve your own totally new hook (which (maybe) everyone else thinks is biased/very poor/misconstrued). However you can complete the review with the exception of the new hook ... which is why I ticked your new hook. Keep up the good work. Victuallers (talk) 07:56, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. Thanks @Victuallers:! BuySomeApples (talk) 15:23, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
To T:DYK/P7

"Supporting the languages development act" section

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This section barely mentions Miao at all. If the councilor was more strongly involved in this incident or in the general discussion, then aspects more focused on Miao should be featured here. (Note that I am deliberately avoiding pronouns for Miao, as in a recent interview, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edUy1nYM0m4&t=903s the councilor preferred not to be referred to by gendered titles at all.)