Talk:Meidob volcanic field

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Ceranthor (talk · contribs) 15:21, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I will review this. ceranthor 15:21, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

Lead

Mostly looks good. This one sentence reads a bit awkwardly, though: "but legends by local people imply that they witnessed volcanic eruptions in the field." Might be better to rephrase the "legends by local people" bit - I think the issue is the word "by".
Did a change. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Name

"The term "Meidob" is derived from a Nubian language where peida means "slave".[2]" - Is it "the" Nubian language or "a" Nubian language? Also, not sure about the use of "where" here.
I think it is the Midob language which is a Nubian language but the source does not explicitly say so. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm doubtful that this etymology is accurate. According to Werner, slave in Midob is peedi, not peida. And I have my doubts that this is sufficient for an etymological relationship. Other Nubian languages are probably out of discussion (slave is nogo in Kunuz and osshi in Nobiin, osh in Old Nubian). For me, Arkells guess is far too fishy to be kept as fact. So, wouldn't it be more appropriate to refer to the [Midob people] where the volcanic field derives its name from? And if a further etymology needs to be added, you could use the more recent comment from Werner: "The origin of the term 'Midob' is obscure, although Midob tribesmen mentioned in conversation that it goes back to an ancestor of the Midob called Ahmed al Adoob. Whether this etymology is acceptable and by what process this purported ancestor's name would lead to the term Midob, is not clear to me." (Werner 1993, p.13) Gruenman (talk) 16:46, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The Midob people live in the Meidob area.[4]" - which is where exactly? A little more info would be useful to a lay reader (like myself :))
Per the source it's the "Meidob Hills" which is how it refers to the hills formed by the volcanic field. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Geography and geomorphology

"The Meidob volcanic field lies in northern Darfur, its maximum elevation is 1,800 metres (6,000 ft).[5] " - run-on sentence
Removed. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Politically it is part of northern Sudan,[6] and the towns of Bir Harra, Ein Basoro and Malha are near the volcanic field,[7] while El Fasher is 220 kilometres (140 mi) south-southwest from it.[8] " - too many ideas; split into two sentences perhaps
Also done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
" The field consists of cones and lava flows, which form a 400 metres (1,300 ft) thick" - need a |adj=on
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
" reach lengths of over 20 kilometres (12 mi)." - more than, not over
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
" and c. 1,050 metres (3,440 ft) wide." - isn't circa used for dates?
Not sure. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Geology

"Mantle plumes and rifting processes are responsible for volcanism in northern Africa,[22][9] in the case of the Darfur dome volcanic fields such as Jebel Marra, Meidob and Tagabo Hills the most likely explanation is a mantle plume.[23] " - should be a semicolon not a comma
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Alternatively, an origin as an intracontinental triple junction has also been proposed[24] but is controversial.[25]" - can you elaborate how/why it's controversial?
Explained. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Jebel Marra and Meidob lie on an uplifted basement[9] known as the Darfur dome,[22] " - link to Darfur here isn't useful or necessary IMO
Zapped. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
" There are both northeast-southwest, east-west and northwest-southeast trends" - I think these should have ENdashes rather than hyphens, but not totally sure
I'll confess that I've never understood the dashes thing. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Eruption history

"Volcanism at first took the form of lava emissions, later during the Pliocene to Holocene it was dominated by pyroclastics and lavas.[42]" - run-on as is; needs a conjunction
Run on removed. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"legends by the Meidob recall that many generations ago" - same note as "Name" note above
Corrected. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

General

Refs seem reliable and consistently formatted.
Earwig's tool checks out.

Notes

Should be consistent with using punctuation or not.
Added. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Images

File:Malha_Wells,_Sudan_by_Planet_Labs.jpg - checks out
File:Meidob Vulkanfeld.jpg - checks out
File:Sudan location map Topographic.png - checks out

Good work overall. Should be easy to make the above changes and then I'll be happy to pass this. ceranthor 14:56, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Acted on these. I see that "Meidob people" is by some sources spelled "Midob"; does it make sense to standardize? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Jo-Jo Eumerus: I think so. Otherwise these look good. Let me know when you standardize and then I'll do one last run-through before passing. ceranthor 20:51, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:24, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Eruption history

The date ranges in this section are incomprehensible.

What do the short dashes represent, and why?
Some dates are marked as BCE, others aren't. Are these others also BCE, or what?

Ehrenkater (talk) 17:08, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. The issue is that different sources use different date formats - I've explained a bit. The dashes are b/c these are two dates for the same eruption. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:38, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]