Talk:Mckenna Grace/Archive 1

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Archive 1

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Favorite brand

Favourite brand for clothing 2409:4052:4D8A:FBE3:50D0:32FF:FEA7:238A (talk) 05:36, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hi are you one of the ghostbuster afterlife movie 112.198.216.122 (talk) 00:56, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

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How to add a photo as an edit?

How to add a photo as an edit? Artina Mehrdad (talk) 09:33, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Infobox image

The infobox image was changed to show Mckenna Grace with a huge grin. File:Mckenna grace 2023 3.jpg While this isn't a bad image I think an image with a huge grin is not the best choice for an encyclopedia article. There is another image from the same time that show Grace more clearly and with only a slight smile File:Mckenna grace 2023 1.jpg which I believe would be a more appropriate image for an encyclopedia as it shows her face more clearly allowing readers to more easily identify her (a huge open mouth grin would not be acceptable on a passport photo, and a more subtle expression seems more appropriate for an encyclopedia). Another editor rejected this image and reverted[1] claiming the image quality is insufficient (seems fine to me, maybe marginally less sharp perhaps) and that the eyeline directs readers to the right off the page (again clarity seems more important to me than an image where Grace is looking straight at the camera).

TLDR: I would urge editor to consider a different Infobox image showing the person with a more neutral expression. -- 109.255.172.191 (talk) 16:47, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

Passed. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:15, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

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Reviewer: MyCatIsAChonk (talk · contribs) 12:13, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your reviews on Oliver and LWT lists- happy to review this! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 12:13, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Pamzeis, done with the review. Just a few small things to clean up and it's ready for GA! Nice job! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 13:34, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

My true intention behind reviewing your lists was to make you my slave and feel obligated to review everything I nominated!^{[just kidding]} But anyways, I've responded to your comments below. Let me know if you have any other issues! Pamzeis (talk) 02:10, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

I shall take the role of Court Reviewer of the High Castle of Pamzeis with great honor! But, don't worry, I'm a strong believer in quid pro quo. Thanks for addressing the concerns- good for GA! Nice work! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:14, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	In 2017, Grace stated she would attend a creative writing workshop with other home-schooled students once a week. - This is a bit confusing; is she attending it after this statement? Is this her reflecting and saying "I would attend classes each day in elementary school..."? A moment to reflect on our favorite WP:INTOTHEWOULDS Fixed ...recommended traveling to Los Angeles, California... - expand the WL to Cali as well: Los Angeles, California. Done ...which disappointed critics. - Did her performance disappoint critics? Did the film dissapoint? What was dissapointing? Revised In a review mxdwn.com lauded her... - comma after "review", or perhaps just cut "in a review" altogether Done but kept "in a review" because I think it makes it flow a bit better. I'm not entirely against cutting it though. "Stated" is used twelve times in the article; I'd suggest mixing it up, using said, opined and wrote for reviewers, etc... of course, be wary of MOS:SAID And I was super wary of overusing "described" and "commented". Never occurred to me that I overused "stated"... Wl scoliosis under "Personal life" Not done because it's already linked in "Music career", though this maybe a case of WP:IAR given its significance Under "Awards and nominations", the small text and footnote "shared with others" would make more sense if attached to the "Won" cell. Also, put shared with others inside the efn: "Grace shared the win with others: Brooklynn..." ~~Done~~ Prose is clear and free of typos.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Complies with MoS standards for layout and fiction- lead is well-written.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	Refs are placed in a proper "References" section.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Most sources are to entertainment websites or magazines, and some are to review sites (e.g. Rotten Tomatoes) and music streaming services (Apple Music). All reliable in their usage.
	2c. it contains no original research.	Spotchecking the following, chosen at random: Ref 10 (Ng 2013): good Ref 23 (Kroll 2015): good Ref 29 (Roeper 2017): good Ref 37 (Andreeva 2018): good Ref 42 (Rife 2018): good Ref 57 (D'Angelo 2020): good Ref 73 (Lambe 2021): good Ref 85 (Grace 2021): good for the second sentence, but does not support Throughout filming, her portrayal of the character shifted significantly; she originally played Phoebe as robotic as possible, but director Jason Reitman asked her to be more expressive. It's not in the text, but the YouTube video above the excerpts of the interview. At around 12:16 and 13:00–13:25. Ref 106 (Fienberg 2022): good Ref 113 (D'Alessandro 2023): good Ref 128 (Today 2022): good Ref 141 (Fahey 2022): good Ref 154 (Bolton 2022): good All come up clear, no OR visible.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	Earwig shows no violations. High scores on some sources are due to names and quotes.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	Addresses her early life, acting career, music career, influences, and personal life. All good here.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Article stays focused throughout.
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	No editorial bias visible.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	There have been a number of revisions in the last month that were reverted due to lack of sources, which is justified but I felt was worth noting. The reversions went unchallenged- no edit warring present.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Images are properly CC tagged.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	~~Grace cites American singers Lana Del Rey and Taylor Swift (right) as her main influences. - (left) needs to be placed after Lana Del Ray, otherwise it's inconsistent.~~ Done Images are relevant and properly captioned.
	7. Overall assessment.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:47, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

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Mckenna Grace

... that Mckenna Grace's mom told her she was "barely even human" when she was four? Source: [2]
- ALT1: ... that Mckenna Grace (pictured) was taught acting by Morgan Fairchild's sister? Source: [3]
- ALT2: ... that Mckenna Grace (pictured) has played younger versions of the titular characters in Captain Marvel, Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, and I, Tonya? Source: I mean you can just verify it [4], but in the article, it's sourced to [5], [6], [7]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Music of Spider-Verse

Improved to Good Article status by Pamzeis (talk). Self-nominated at 13:38, 6 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mckenna Grace; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

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Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
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QPQ: None required.

Overall: All is clear. Article was promoted to Good Article status on August 6, 2023. IMO the original hook is interesting. RV (talk) 17:26, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

@RAJIVVASUDEV: (that's impossible to spell) I just remembered that I have another Grace-related nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/List of Mckenna Grace performances. I've suggested a multi-article hook over there, though I don't think ALT0 or 1 would work. Not really sure on the procedure about multi-article hooks 'cuz I've never done one though. Pamzeis (talk) 08:39, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

The suggested hook is clearly present in the article and complies with the requirement. What is causing concern? I don't see any issues here regarding this article and ALTo. Thanks RV (talk) 09:26, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

So basically, I forgot that I had an open nomination for List of Mckenna Grace performances, which is related topic (if you couldn't tell already lol). I wanted to do a multi-article nomination/hook and since that nom has been open longer I dropped it over there. The list article doesn't mention the human quote or her acting teacher, so I don't think they can be used. The new multi-article hook has been approved at Template:Did you know nominations/List of Mckenna Grace performances now, so I guess I should withdraw this one, and we can continue any further discussion over there. Pamzeis (talk) 14:53, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

I will leave this to you and the promoter. Thanks RV (talk) 05:50, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Nominator has expressed a preference to withdraw. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:46, 8 August 2023 (UTC)