Talk:Marionberry

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Oregon is not the world

"The marionberry is currently the most common blackberry cultivar, accounting for over half of all blackberries produced in Oregon." -- what about the rest of the world? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:16B8:5CFF:2000:7EAB:314A:688:1BF4 (talk) 18:46, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The reference cited actually states: "...the predominant blackberry cultivar FOR THE PROCESSED-FOOD MARKET." I would think this is an important distinction. 2601:840:4300:1480:F428:7E49:4DA6:9613 (talk) 07:39, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalization and punctuation of common names

I notice that loganberry isn't capitalized in either the Marionberry or blackberry article (the contents of the former being almost exactly a copy/paste from the blackberry article's section on cultivars), but that Marionberry and Olallieberry are. Also, some common names are punctuated with apostrophes, and some aren't. Does wikipedia already have a universal approach to punctuating/not punctuating/capitalizing/not capitalizing the common names of plants and their fruits? Are cultivated plants treated differently? Seijihyouronka (talk) 23:53, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cultivars ('Marion', 'Olallie') get single quotes. I'm not sure how the popular names (Marionberry, Olallieberry) are supposed to be capitalized. I'll check. I didn't know about the single quotes until I checked the style guides of several publishers. Katr67 (talk) 22:37, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to put the popular names in lowercase per Merriam-Webster. Katr67 (talk) 15:49, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Someone should also mention that the Boston Beer Company brew a beverage called Samuel Adams Blackberry Witbier. It says on the neck of the bottle that they only use Marion Blackberries from Oregon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.27.238.201 (talk) 21:33, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No Mention of Waldoberry

I would love to see a mention of the Waldoberry. I know it is a Rubus Subgenus and related to the Marionberry as much as other listed varieties.

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References

^ http://berrygrape.org/blackberry-production-in-oregon/

Mistake on mobile view

The headline photo caption of this article on the mobile app view says: "Marionberry, a very talented man". I believe it's crossing with the disambiguation articles' data. --Wa17gs (talk) 13:27, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello @Shhhnotsoloud: I think we do need this hatnote. Someone could type this incorrectly. Invasive Spices (talk) 3 December 2022 (UTC)

@Invasive Spices: OK, I put one back. Thanks, Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:25, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All blackberries are not marionberries

The intro currently says "Marionberries account for 90% of the worldwide acreage of cultivated blackberries." and attributes that to https://www.oregonencyclopedia.org/articles/marionberry/.

The actual cited document merely says that 1. "The blackberry cultivar, Marion, often called "marionberry" by consumers and marketers, is the most widely planted trailing blackberry in the world" and 2. "More than 90 percent of the worldwide acreage of Marion is located in Oregon."

The jump from "90% of Marionberries are cultivated in Oregon" to "90% of cultivated blackberries are Marionberries" is inaccurate as we don't know exactly how much of the crop of cultivated blackberries are Marion. 97.120.200.139 (talk) 19:46, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I interpreted the sentence to mean that blackberries are rarely cultivated (i.e., farmed) in a sizeable and systematic way (wild blackberry brambles are dense across the Pacific Northwest), and when they are, marionberries are the main cultivar, as exists in 90% of Oregon's cultivated blackberries ("the most widely planted trailing blackberry in the world").

We have no source that blackberries are farmed in other US states (perhaps some in WA) or countries in the same volume as Oregon farms marionberries.

How would you rewrite the sentence and with what source? Zefr (talk) 20:12, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ref

https://pdx.eater.com/2024/8/8/24214741/best-marionberries-portland-oregon-guide-marionberry-pie-jam-u-pick

--Another Believer _(Talk) 17:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://berrygrape.org/blackberry-production-in-oregon/

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