Talk:Marcelino Gutiérrez

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Did you know... that Marcelino Gutiérrez was the only surviving brother who led the Gutiérrez Brothers' rebellion against Manuel Pardo, the elected president of Peru?

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The result was: promoted by Lightburst talk 22:28, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Marcelino Gutiérrez was the only surviving brother that led the Gutiérrez Brothers' rebellion against elected president of Peru Manuel Pardo? Source: La República: Tomás Gutiérrez, la historia del militar que dio un golpe de estado y murió colgado en una Catedral
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cover-up tattoo, Template:Did you know nominations/Karl Schädler

Created by AlejandroFC (talk) and 2x2leax (talk). Nominated by 2x2leax (talk) at 22:03, 20 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Marcelino Gutiérrez; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

@2x2leax: Since this is your sixth nomination, you will need to provide a QPQ for this to proceed. Z1720 (talk) 19:24, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720: I have done edits on this nomination for QPQ before starting this one. Are those edits valid? --2x2leax (talk) 20:50, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@2x2leax: Did you review all of the criteria in that nomination? All I see is that you reviewed the ALT1 hook. Z1720 (talk) 00:35, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, I recommended ALT1 as well as I have read sources used as citations for the hook. If that isn't enough, I will start reviewing for QPQ. --2x2leax (talk) 07:56, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On a second look, I think this QPQ will work, but I will let another reviewer take a look when they review this DYK. Z1720 (talk) 19:10, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revieewer needed. Z1720 (talk) 19:10, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, that absolutely does not count as a WP:QPQ. Please complete a full review of another article, assessing the criteria at WP:DYKRI.--Laun chba ller 20:58, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ Launchballer I am going to overule this and agree with Z1720 that we should accept it as a QPQ given that 2x2leax did the work of getting that hook over into the approved side of a DYK. The whole point of QPQ is to clear the backlog, and 2x2 did the work of sheperding another person's hook nomination past the finish line. Given that 2x2leax is just barely past the five DYK mark, I would say this counts as a good faith attempt at a first QPQ. Let's not clog up DYK by being pedantic over QPQ rules, and let a proper review of this nom go forward so we can get it cleared.4meter4 (talk) 16:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer needed.4meter4 (talk) 16:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@2x2leax: Created on the 13th and nominated within seven days and the article is 2751 characters so it is long enough. The QPQ is done, the tone of the article is neutral and the hook is interesting.

Y First, the hook fact is cited and in the lead. It is best practice to use the lead as a summary/introduction and then cite that material in the body. it is not a Disqualifier the way you did it.
N Second, there is a citation needed tag which needs attention.
Y Earwig does not alert to issues but there are foreign language sources.
? What makes familysearch (citation 5) a reliable source? Bruxton (talk) 01:53, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@2x2leax Have you seen this. There are some issues you need to address.4meter4 (talk) 15:39, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bruxton did this edit solve the issues? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the ping AirshipJungleman29. Not yet. I see the new source came with a new cause of death - we went from tuberculosis to heart attack. But the ^{[citation needed]} tag was removed even though this sentence remains unsupported, "he attempted to flee to the port of Callao, but was later imprisoned and put on trial" I will tag it. 2x2leax ping me if you can fix this. Bruxton (talk) 00:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have done two QPQ, but I don't know if those count. I have fixed the fifth citation by replacing it with La República source. I will start fixing the other problems you have found. --2x2leax (talk) 03:55, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruxton Done. --2x2leax (talk) 06:07, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article appears to be ready. Bruxton (talk) 14:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]