Talk:Manfred von Richthofen (general)

A fact from Manfred von Richthofen (general) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 27 June 2012 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that General Manfred von Richthofen, like the air ace who was named after him and was his great-nephew, was awarded the "Blue Max" for his service in World War I?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2012/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Manfred von Richthofen (General).

Wikipedia

Biography: Military / Royalty and Nobility

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the military biography work group (assessed as Mid-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject Royalty and Nobility.

Germany Low‑importance

	Germany portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Germany, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Germany on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GermanyWikipedia:WikiProject GermanyTemplate:WikiProject GermanyGermany articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article has been marked as needing immediate attention.

Military history: Biography / European / German / World War I

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Military biography task force
	European military history task force
	German military history task force
	World War I task force

Comments

Used translations of German, French and Croatian articles to create this one. Hamish59 (talk) 16:16, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 13:19, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Manfred von Richthofen (general) → Karl Ernst Manfred von Richthofen – Manfred von Richthofen is the name of (1) Karl Ernst Manfred von Richthofen (1855-1939), German general (currently at: Manfred von Richthofen (general)); (2) Manfred Albrecht von Richthofen (1892-1918), German military aviator, great nephew of (1) (currently at: Manfred von Richthofen); (3) Manfred von Richthofen (1934-2014), German athlete and sports administrator, nephew of (2) (Manfred von Richthofen gestorben, sportschau.de, May 2, 2014);. The only one bearing exactly the name 'Manfred von Richthofen' (3) is not mentioned. So 'Manfred von Richthofen' should be made a disambiguation page, and the two existing articles on military people moved to their full names. Seelefant (talk) 15:34, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – The Red Baron Manfred von Richthofen is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Hamish59 (talk) 15:58, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Actually, I think Hamish59 may have misunderstood the issues here. However, according to Wikipedia naming conventions, as a general rule we should disambiguate people by posts or jobs they held, not by middle names or the like which have not been widely used. PatGallacher (talk) 01:37, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The Red Baron is primary topic for "Manfred von Richthofen." So his article should remain at that lemma; It should definitely not be "made a disambiguation page." I not sure I understand the rest of the proposal. Put the haggis on the fire (talk) 01:58, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment is there actually an article on English Wikipedia for the athlete? Why don't you start by creating a set-index for the Manfreds Richthofen? Manfred Richthofen (list), and see how many (von or not, Freiherr or not) there are. -- 65.94.171.206 (talk) 08:40, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose there is one Manfred von Richthofen, by a country mile. The rest are dabs. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 12:16, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The general is not commonly known by his full name and the air ace is the primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:04, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.