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A fact from Machico (singer) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 April 2017 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that voice actress and singer Machico made a cameo as herself in the anime television series Seiyu's Life!?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2017/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Machico (singer).

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The infobox should be changed to Template:Infobox musical artist. Yoninah (talk) 22:56, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 January 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Please feel free to create a disambiguation page at the base title if needed, or to take the redirect to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion. Dekimasuよ! 10:06, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Machico (singer) → Machico – A nationally-famous singer with four Top 45 hit singles in Oricon is a better WP:PRIMARYTOPIC than a quiet town with 20,000 people like Machico, Madeira. ミラ P 18:03, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination, with a hatnote directing users to the Madeira municipality or, at the very least, Machico should be a disambiguation page, rather than redirecting to Machico, Madeira. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:48, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose At least 22,000 people will be familiar with the city, the third largest municipality on its island. I doubt that many have ever heard of this obscure singer with her four Top 45 "hits"! While I accept she probably scrapes by on WP:GNG it's dubious whether she currently meets the criteria for N:MUSIC. So the long-term significance aspect of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is 100% with the settlement and all its history etc. Perhaps if someone like Ariana Grande or Katy Perry starts calling themselves Machico there might be a debate to be had. But this micro-celebrity (with all due respect)? No way. Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 10:30, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Bring back Daz Sampson: She does meet WP:SINGER 2 and 10 and has had two top 33 hits. She sang music for anime watched by millions - KonoSuba and soon Pretty Cure - whereas only "22,000 people will be familiar with the city". ミラ P 15:54, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly you have a very generous definition of 'hit'! I think there is a question of scale here: this Portuguese city and its many thousands of inhabitants will be there long after Ms Saitō's modest exploits in the lower reaches of Japan's pop music charts. Frankly, I would be WP:ASTONISHed to find myself at the article of a very minor anime personality if I typed the name of a European city into the search bar. Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 16:17, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Very strong oppose editors from anime projects please check GBooks before initiating RMs like This, and note the Japanese cartoon backing singer doesn't come up in Google image search where as per Gbooks "Machico is a small resort, with a sandy beach used by locals as well as holidaymakers plus a large stony section with boards to lay on..." not a Japanese voice actress Machiko. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:07, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@In ictu oculi and Bring back Daz Sampson: If you type "machico" in Google search it returns the singer instead of the town. ミラ P 19:46, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Miraclepine, Or "Mira" your Katakana name. Yes there is a whole load of junk out there on vanilla Google, yes in among all that ephemeral passing rubbish the anime voiceover counts more than the town. But this is an encyclopedia. Which is why we refer to books. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:15, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure about this? My Google search throws up 2 pages of holiday adverts before it even mentions the no-mark singer. I am in the UK where holidays to Madeira are very popular, especially with older people and especially at this time of year. Probably because it's nice and warm but not oppressively so. Maybe your Google search is pushing anime stuff at you because you have Googled loads of it before? Remember that for the vast majority of readers that won't be the case. Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 14:34, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Bring back Daz Sampson: I meant the sidebar that reveals the more primary Wikipedia article, which reveals the singer not the place. ミラ P 14:50, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW my Google sidebar is for the place. Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 18:38, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguate the place gets nearly half the views of the singer (1,093 v 516) [[1]] and the place is probably primary by PT#2. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:03, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Dab page at the base term as a first choice, support nom as a second choice. Both are preferable to the status quo. —Xezbeth (talk) 07:26, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for now. Not WP:PRIMARY. gidonb (talk) 00:07, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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