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(false) account of Ma Zhongying from book

from "whoos who in china"

GEN. MA CHUNG-YING, army officer ; born at Hochow, Kansu, 1909 ; entered army service at age of 15 ; served successively as battalion com- mander and regimental commander ; promoted Commander of the newly organised 36th Division in Sinkiang, 1933 ; born of a well-known Mohammed- an family, he has been much respected by the Mohammedan population in the Northwest, particularly in Kansu and Sinkiang ; when Chairman Chin Shu-jen of Sinkiang was overthrown by the Mohammedan tribes in the spring of 1933, he marched from Kansu into Sinkiang and took over control of that province; however, soon Gen. Sheng Shi-tsai, a Manchurian Commander, with the Manchurian troops repatriated from Russia rose to oppose him and a war of rivalry for the mastery over Sinkiang ensued in the summer of 1934, during which his Mohammedan forces on many occasions threatened to capture Tihua, capital of Sinkiang, but each time they were repulsed > intermittent fighting between him and Gen. Sheng in Sinkiang lasted for a considerable time; finally, in July, 1934, he was defeated by Gen. Sheng's troops and was forced to take refuge in Soviet Russia; he and the remnants of his troops were disarmed by the Soviet authorities and interned in Russia; he returned to China, 1934 and is now living in Tientsin.

The first part is true, while the last sentence is junk. He never returned to China or Tientsin (tianjin).06:35, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

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https://archive.org/stream/5edwhoswhoinchina00shanuoft#page/184/mode/2up

Page 278

qian Riben Mozi yan jiu suo qing bao zi liao : Ying wen shi liao Xiaofeng Ji, Youyi Shen, 末次研究所 (Beijing, China), Suetsugu Kenkyūjo (Peking, China), 厦門大學. ... It says that since last summer Ma Chung-ying has styled himself commander of the allied forces in Kan:how. ... by Slnklang troops and that Ma Chung-yln has fled to Mlcheng, north of; Hami. but Government troops are In pursuit of him.

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http://books.google.com/books?id=xiEvAAAAMAAJ&q=hami++ma+chungying+qing&dq=hami++ma+chungying+qing&hl=en&sa=X&ei=aE6xULStC47O0QH3y4HABw&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAQ

Rajmaan (talk) 22:48, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Does it matter if a source is good or bad to be part of an article as long as the information whether good or bad is established so that a complete story of the article can be told? As long as the credibility is explained in the article then everyone should not be mislead.66.74.176.59 (talk) 10:35, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Who's who in China; biographies of Chinese leaders. Shanghai: THE CHINA WEEKLY REVIEW. 1936. p. 184. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
^ Ji, Xiaofeng; Shen, Youyi (1998). Zhonghua Minguo shi shi liao wai bian: qian Riben Mozi yan jiu suo qing bao zi liao : Ying wen shi liao. Vol. Volume 25 of Zhonghua Min Guo Shi Shi Liao Wai Bian: Qian Riben Moci Yan Jiu Suo Qing Bao Zi Liao : Ying Wen Shi Liao, 末次研究所 (Beijing, China) Volume 25 of Chung-hua Min Kuo Shih Shih Liao Wai Pien: Chʻien Jih-pen Mo-tzʻu Yen Chiu So Chʻing Pao Tzu Liao : Ying Wen Shih Liao, Suetsugu Kenkyūjo (Beijing, China) (reprint ed.). kuang-hsi shih fan ta hsüeh chʻu pan she. p. 278. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: |volume= has extra text (help); Invalid |ref=harv (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help); line feed character in |volume= at position 143 (help)

Explanations Please?

"was wounded and returned to Gansu where he forced Mildred Cable, Francesca and Eva French to tend to his wounds."

and

"caravan of truck lorries"

Did he "force" these women to care for him?

and

In British English aren't all "lorries" "trucks"?66.74.176.59 (talk) 10:41, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Who's who in China; biographies of Chinese leaders. Shanghai: THE CHINA WEEKLY REVIEW. 1936. p. 184. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

[2] Ji, Xiaofeng; Shen, Youyi (1998). Zhonghua Minguo shi shi liao wai bian: qian Riben Mozi yan jiu suo qing bao zi liao : Ying wen shi liao. Vol. Volume 25 of Zhonghua Min Guo Shi Shi Liao Wai Bian: Qian Riben Moci Yan Jiu Suo Qing Bao Zi Liao : Ying Wen Shi Liao, 末次研究所 (Beijing, China) Volume 25 of Chung-hua Min Kuo Shih Shih Liao Wai Pien: Chʻien Jih-pen Mo-tzʻu Yen Chiu So Chʻing Pao Tzu Liao : Ying Wen Shih Liao, Suetsugu Kenkyūjo (Beijing, China) (reprint ed.). kuang-hsi shih fan ta hsüeh chʻu pan she. p. 278. Retrieved 24 April 2014. {{cite book}}: |volume= has extra text (help); Invalid |ref=harv (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help); line feed character in |volume= at position 143 (help)

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