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When did he die? Was it after 1919 and not in 1888?

This article, and Baseball Reference, list a death date for him in 1888, but I've seen a picture of him riding in an automobile at the 1919 World Series with the Cincinnati Reds celebrating the surviving players from the city's first professional team.

Here you can see Cal McVey, Oak Taylor, and George Wright in a photo:

https://books.google.co.jp/books?id=BqI8eYfTJVsC&pg=PA43&lpg=PA43&dq=oak+taylor+1919+world+series&source=bl&ots=iChesnbuva&sig=4DR0b6J_xvlmMsU9Tak4-iPVoeM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi61-WIjqPaAhXFxrwKHS7NALoQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=oak%20taylor%201919%20world%20series&f=false

And here is a banquet program from the same year, signed by these three players:

https://catalog.scpauctions.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=21118

Yet this article claims that he died at the young age of 37 of a lung ailment, and that he had been playing for the San Francisco Pioneers:

https://books.google.co.jp/books?id=5FUIAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA271&lpg=PA271&dq=%22oak+taylor%22+death+date&source=bl&ots=dWuaBSb-n7&sig=2QCsu-G-9V8y4Yqtg8CPffVBSN4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwid79yGj6PaAhUGObwKHSZ1BZcQ6AEITzAI#v=onepage&q=%22oak%20taylor%22%20death%20date&f=false

Could one or the other have been an impostor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark Yaima (talk • contribs) 12:33, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that's an impostor, I think they're just two different guys. That "Oak Taylor" is described as playing for the 1869 Red Stockings, which Live Taylor was never associated with. He's also described as being from Atlanta, unlike Live Taylor. The Taylor of this article definitely wound up in California and died in 1888. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 03:18, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 11 December 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Adumbrativus (talk) 07:50, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Live Oak Taylor → Live Taylor – All news coverage of this man during his lifetime called him "Live Taylor." "Live Oak Taylor" did not enter the picture until years later and I can't discern its origin. It was likely an error in copyediting in an early baseball encyclopedia which became gospel with time.

A Newspapers.com search for "Live Oak Taylor" between 1870 and 1900 returns no relevant results. A Newspapers.com search for "Live Taylor" and baseball between 1870 and 1888 returns 165 results. The Sporting Life never mentioned a "Live Oak Taylor" and their coverage of his death calls him "Live." See some examples of articles and mentions in newspapers here, here, here and here. This shouldn't be controversial and I'd move it unilaterally except the relevant authorities (e.g. SABR, Baseball-Reference) are still using the errant name for now so I thought I'd give people time to oppose. I only just brought this research to SABR today. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 03:15, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I actually just heard from the SABR Biographical Research Committee today and the guy told me he already had him as "Live Taylor" in their database so I'm gonna make this change. Not sure what the point is of that committee if their research doesn't affect any actual change on SABR's own website but whatever. This request is ready for early closure because I don't think there's any controversy here any longer. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 14:39, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.