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Nerd271, I'm vaguely curious about your revert, for which you gave no rationale (which should be seen in the context where I did explain my edit adequately). The text concerned is in WP's voice, so there are no issues with faithfulness to a quote or article title. Please do not be deceived by Google ngram counts: these do not reflect scholarly literature. As far as I can tell using Google Scholar, recent literature (consistently over at least the last decade) dominantly uses the name "Avogadro number" rather than "Avogadro's number". —Quondum13:07, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The rationale is given in the edit summary. No, I was not thinking in terms of what people might or might not find on Google. That was a matter of style. Since "the Avogadro number" has already been used in the same paragraph, writing "Avogadro's number" is a good idea. Good writing avoids unnecessary repetition. I doubt scholars insist on saying on or the other, to be honest. Nerd271 (talk) 01:03, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the clarification. I could not glean this from your choice of words in your edit summary ("Or we can use varied phrasing"). Looking more closely, there is a bigger problem with this: the use of "Avogadro('s) number" where it is likely to be confused with "Avogadro constant"; they are not equivalent. I'll give this some thought, while trying to limit repetition of the name. —Quondum16:15, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is explained briefly in the lead of Avogadro constant. They are dimensionally different. The Avogadro number, N0, is a (rather large) dimensionless number, whereas the Avogadro constant, NA, has the unit mol−1. Since units behave like variables of unknown (and unknowable) value, the two cannot be equated directly. They are related by NA = N0 / 1 mol. As far as I'm aware, the Avogadro number has little scientific utility beyond its use in defining the mole and the Avogadro constant, but is more relatable in informal contexts. —Quondum15:29, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]